Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55748 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 34562 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2011 09:39:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Oct 2011 09:39:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.132 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.132 c2bthomr14.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.132] ([213.123.20.132:51283] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 66/00-34277-53A109E4 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 05:39:02 -0400 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.4_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr14.btconnect.com with ESMTP id EQW18891; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 10:38:56 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4E901A30.1010500@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 10:38:56 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110907 Firefox/6.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Internals References: <4E9001FC.2000507@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0302.4E901A30.0062, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2011.10.8.84815:17:7.586, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr14.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0208.4E901A33.003A:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2010-07-22 22:03:31, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] little tweeking on the release process RFC From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Pierre Joye wrote: >>> >> I don't see how it is contradictory. SAPIs are self contained and >>> >> can't harm another SAPI, that's why we added this clause. >> > >> > This is where the modular/bundled discussion comes in? > No, it is not, absolutely not. Please do not hijack again this thread > with this discussion, it is totally off topic. > > SAPIs are what makes possible to get PHP works in a shell, apache, fastcgi, etc. > > Thanks for your understanding, Sorry I don't understand why you say this is not the same discussion. Personally I only use an Apache SAPI but I can quite see that other people want a bundle with different SAPI's. These are different targets which a single fully bundled distribution is just excessive. The current pressure is to get even more things included in an already bloated core bundle, when a sensible debate on a more targeted distribution model ... such as like the Linux distributions already break things down to ... makes perfect sense to me. Exactly the same debate is going on with Eclipse distributions, to simplify targeted bundles, and make it easier for people to tailor a bundle to their own requirements ... individual extension/plugins develop with their own version numbers without impinging on the core engine. Self contained modules such as individual SAPI's can be develop independently as required, and should not need to have a debate on whether they should be bundled or not if the distribution model allows their publication as an installation option? Returning to the rfc process ... what still seems to be missing is a way of handling these parallel developments rather than just simply 'throwing them out for pecl to handle'? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php