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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 beta
From: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com (Hannes Magnusson)

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 19:31, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com> wr=
ote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> On 8/28/11 10:55 PM, Gustavo Lopes wrote:
>>>
>>> I should ask someone with Zend karma to commit the closure rebinding
>>> patch.
>>>
>>> Context:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/closures/object-extension#privateprotected_mem=
bers_scope
>>>
>>> Vote: https://wiki.php.net/todo/php54/vote
>>
>> Done.
>>
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>
> Hi.
>
> do we have a wiki/documentation about what exactly ended up in 5.4
> from the Closure improvements? (Rebind)
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/closures/object-extension#privateprotected_membe=
rs_scope
> is really hard to read, as it contains all of the suggested ideas and
> possible solutions, etc.
> if not, maybe someone with the required knowledge =C2=A0could start worki=
ng
> on adding the documentation?

The UPGRADING file is also completely worthless.
I have no idea what is going on, as a dev, nor as a documentor.
Be it traits, closures, or whatever random new parameter or function was ad=
ded.
When 5.3 came around, I literally had to diff the sources to figure
out what was going on, I am not going through that again.

The RM should have a 110% clear oversight over what has changed, new
and removed, and should therefore write clear notes about it before an
beta exists, then the doc team can take those notes and write proper
docs.

If that doesn't happen, we wind up with more features like streams and
filters which took 5+ years to document.

-Hannes