Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55732 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48100 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2011 15:15:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Oct 2011 15:15:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zardozrocks@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zardozrocks@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zardozrocks@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.42 mail-qw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.42] ([209.85.216.42:46080] helo=mail-qw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A6/11-42058-D771F8E4 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:15:10 -0400 Received: by qadc12 with SMTP id c12so3357085qad.29 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:15:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vCXlaWPiUny8jNz/V9gVkrbCMwoZ3c1AzjoIRzcf2os=; b=v4nlqCW6NjM9oCafsJ18kikdd3d3Co46W4Y1VRskIxgvzumrFDFPAEO9BjfSKgh7ri vsd9E29KLu1PA/rTjprvzm9zoGWwCXruI6GXv+FroTonbgvZzF4yLFZkq1LjYneaEj2V lOqP/FGPPh4sRScLA8GFTsO7twGi1hRo5PFCQ= Received: by 10.68.26.69 with SMTP id j5mr14390279pbg.110.1318000506950; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.132] (cpe-76-173-102-243.socal.res.rr.com. [76.173.102.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ji3sm32203083pbc.2.2011.10.07.08.15.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E8F176F.9010507@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:14:55 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <4E8EE00D.604@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Time zone database shut down by legal threat From: zardozrocks@gmail.com ("J. Adams") Is the IANA tz database subject to the same constraints as the old one? If so, it may be subject to the same legal constraints. I believe it would be wise to seek some quality legal advice on the issue. I have tried to contact the Free Software Foundation and the EFF just to see what they might say. I'll pass on anything interesting. On 10/7/2011 6:55 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Fri, 7 Oct 2011, Lester Caine wrote: > >> Derick Rethans wrote: >>>> FYI:http://blog.joda.org/2011/10/today-time-zone-database-was-closed.html >>>>> This could impact PHP as well since it bundles the database. >>> We don't actually bundle the database as rules. Instead, we bundle a >>> compiled version of that, and the original rules do not remain in >>> what we bundle. Not sure whether that means it impacts us or not, >>> and I will not be making any comments about that. >> Unfortunately if the courts rule that the data is not public domain, >> then any use of it would be blocked and liable to license claims? It >> is the current block on making any future updates to the data which is >> a problem that will need to be addressed at some point? So ignoring >> the problem is not really practical :( > The TZ database maintenance is/was in the process of being put under the > IANA as DAO is going on retirement soon. In that light, a new ML has > already been set-up where the timezone database is now being maintained. > New versions of the database will come out as usual, and we'll update > PHP with those new database rules. > > cheers, > Derick >