Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55589 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73031 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2011 18:02:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Sep 2011 18:02:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.170 mail-vx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.170] ([209.85.220.170:50332] helo=mail-vx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 96/94-45260-8387B7E4 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:02:33 -0400 Received: by vcbfk1 with SMTP id fk1so781462vcb.29 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:02:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+LnQ+xP+DWOua6/q6ZyfNqPMYVCGSR8zyDfztYMHwGk=; b=X5harIQbZDqXgYBBEK2xeVn6pXPEI5aS4a7sChUyfcqmAfKwdtom8lmGcr84JFHscE LVTBrXVheoPnunA8tF9sn/8nsOH69cKut/PZk6LT/t0jwwShByEAXwfPg+wAuUzEaG13 2aHzkrZR+BxZ7zCEPUqkKD1AMC8zX6c7UHrH8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.23.2 with SMTP id i2mr2264971vdf.412.1316714549792; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.159.200 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:02:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1316713382.1290.60.camel@guybrush> References: <4E790B82.6090805@akbkhome.com> <8C.A0.17510.E4DE97E4@pb1.pair.com> <1316615094.2810.5.camel@guybrush> <1316629502-sup-831@fewbar.com> <20110922134956.GA28577@panix.com> <1316709104-sup-2744@fewbar.com> <1316713382.1290.60.camel@guybrush> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:02:29 +0200 Message-ID: To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= Cc: Clint Byrum , internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: is_a() - again - a better fix From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) 2011/9/22 Johannes Schl=FCter : > On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 10:27 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: >> So I'm not sure what you would expect from distros, but please share >> and we'll setup automated tests, call for our users to test, whatever >> it takes to avoid this type of situation. > > This issue is not about packagers specifically. What we need is that > more application and library developers test it. I think it is a shame > that PEAR, a php.net project like PHP itself, breaks. This must not > happen. Well, the shame is more on our side as we did not revert this breakage when it was discovered (and it was before 5.3.8 was released). And we have hard discussions to even get an agreement about such changes being a BC break. I'm not willing to blame anyone but we are responsible here, 200%. > I have no idea what to do though. We have a list of "primary testers" > where I usually get one or two responses but most goes into the void. We do tests using apps in our labs and we report any breakage or bugs. We did it for this one as well. But the more we have the better :) Cheers, --=20 Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org