Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55403 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71038 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2011 15:32:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Sep 2011 15:32:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.184 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.184 c2beaomr06.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.184] ([213.123.26.184:22929] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5B/32-06182-5777F6E4 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:32:07 -0400 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.4_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr06.btconnect.com with ESMTP id EOD63129; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:29:57 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4E6F76F0.1080407@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:29:52 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110815 Firefox/6.0 SeaMonkey/2.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Internals References: <1315925527.1441.412.camel@guybrush> In-Reply-To: <1315925527.1441.412.camel@guybrush> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0303.4E6F76F1.0111, actions=TAG X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2011.9.13.150014:17:7.586, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_1400_1499, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr06.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0205.4E6F7772.00DA:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2010-07-22 22:03:31, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] APC in 5.4 From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Johannes Schlüter wrote: > In general I'd tend to drop stuff from PHP instead of adding it. We ship > quite a few extensions where I claim that we don't do any testing and > little maintenance. I would reduce the distribution size and include > things we consider "core PHP" and enable these by default in the hope > that gives developers a clear guidance and what they should be able to > expect. (hoping we can convince distributors to have the same things in > their "PHP" meta packages) But that's nothing for 5.4 but for 5.5. > Anybody wants to write an RFC by chance?:-) Since most of the linux distributors already strip the extra packages and ship them self contained in their own packages it IS about time that the non-essential extensions were kept separate from the core, so a move to a more modular management system is overdue? We can then simply select what we want to include with the core rather than the current method of simply ignoring the unused extensions? APC is optional ... like many other extensions ... so only needs to be supplied as an option anyway. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php