Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55237 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54834 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2011 20:43:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Sep 2011 20:43:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain phpdoc.de from 212.227.17.8 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.17.8 moutng.kundenserver.de Received: from [212.227.17.8] ([212.227.17.8:63197] helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A2/D3-25098-064356E4 for ; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:43:13 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.26] (p5B3A79E4.dip.t-dialin.net [91.58.121.228]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LuFsJ-1R8p2Y1r0R-0114Tw; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 22:43:09 +0200 Message-ID: <4E65345A.4070609@phpdoc.de> Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 22:43:06 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <4E611027.6000103@sugarcrm.com> <4E64E25E.3080102@oracle.com> <4E64E5AC.4040805@hristov.com> <4E64FD80.6050800@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <4E64FD80.6050800@lerdorf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:nzI4hgVeiPApz5arahngDG19wtAmZXySqCp2zVoQfYL oNXnJ2/gf/5gjQA31gst0N0JFEJurvk+ctkKDr6RdrW5FkLxjh wSBVBkZkK4oyT3O6aXbGwK0NV5da93meRWdjulpLwF3jRnKLRd kAFXqYroYRtVn2vyuNrTdJp593RHlwRi1hzEsUQmpwX7UD08VI xYpomPc9tFXeE+fuoWkf183HFkk7spPjghTTAPk3qDEJNHRfoQ +qerTp3ZoM1WtXFvnS7EL7oCEui48beNiWra7306IShNeYMvLk IfHua8RkwttqdNRzxDkzItdEm8Pnsuh5E4Atz+qQx0S0YuZIPh K8LB1AHI242A5jH1l5eI= Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] mysqli tests breaking From: ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de (Ulf Wendel) Am 05.09.2011 18:49, schrieb Rasmus Lerdorf: > In cases where there is no agreement whether something is a bug or just > undefined behaviour it would be really nice if the library authors could > work this out and agree on a common behaviour and failing that PHP > should try to mask the internal Oracle/MySQL squabbles and present > consistent behaviour to the user. Yes... :( . Ever heard a german saying "innerer Schweinehund überwinden"? That means convincing yourself to take the battle, to go the stony road, to motivate yourself. It pays out on the long run. In other words: our fault. Ulf