Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55198 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 75045 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2011 18:08:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2011 18:08:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 67.192.241.153 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.192.241.153 smtp153.dfw.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [67.192.241.153] ([67.192.241.153:54693] helo=smtp153.dfw.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 39/80-05366-C8EB36E4 for ; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:08:13 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp15.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2BC44300253; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 14:08:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp15.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id 9C8F2300250; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 14:08:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4E63BE89.7030008@sugarcrm.com> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:08:09 -0700 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre Joye CC: "internals@lists.php.net" References: <1314966424.2150.26.camel@guybrush> <4E60F712.4010901@lerdorf.com> <4E612BBA.2000509@oracle.com> <4E612D70.70606@sugarcrm.com> <4E616A8E.8040401@lerdorf.com> <4E617B3F.4080105@sugarcrm.com> <4E617C9B.1040504@lerdorf.com> <4E617E2B.7070507@sugarcrm.com> <4E618811.4010703@lerdorf.com> <4E630091.4070009@sugarcrm.com> <4E634143.3010907@thelounge.net> <4E6345D9.4070807@sugarcrm.com> <4E635176.9000406@sugarcrm.com> <4E63BAE7.90208@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mysqlnd default over libmysql in 5.4 From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! On 9/4/11 10:59 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > No, just like what I said for the is_a change, but it was acceptable > for is_a, right? is_a actually broken many (many) apps and codes out > there and it was easily identified, and it was even acceptable in a > patch release. Go figure. Please do not drag totally unrelated matters into the discussion. It serves absolutely no purpose. > Look at the history for the mysql's bugs, plenty of them, internally > or in userland. OK, look at them and? What you want me to see there? > Can you please, and seriously, that's my last attempt, read my answers > and see what we actually test? I never claimed that nobody uses this > behavior but I cannot find any code, app or framework failing with > mysqlnd. Please find one and I will change my mind. You said "I cannot find any code out there relying on this test case and I very much doubt there is any.". This means you're claiming we're testing behavior for which there's no code out there - if your guesses reflect the truth - that is using it. I think you're wrong but that's exactly what you said. > Btw, I have seen many totally pointless tests written for the sake of > having a better code coverage while the code itself makes absolutely > no sense or could even represent something that should not work this > way in the 1st place. It is true, but this test actually proved useful - it discovered difference in semantics between mysqlnd and libmysql, and in frequently used functions at that. Now we know it and we have to decide what to do with it. I hope once the weekend is over, mysqlnd maintainers would voice their opinions on the matter - e.g., should it work this way or not. That's exactly what I want to achieve. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227