Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55174 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 985 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2011 09:13:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Sep 2011 09:13:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=h.reindl@thelounge.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=h.reindl@thelounge.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain thelounge.net designates 91.118.73.15 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: h.reindl@thelounge.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.118.73.15 mail.thelounge.net Windows 98 (1) Received: from [91.118.73.15] ([91.118.73.15:59185] helo=mail.thelounge.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 52/D8-34132-741436E4 for ; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 05:13:44 -0400 Received: from srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net (openvpn-241.thelounge.net [10.0.0.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.thelounge.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9A3DFB4 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:13:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E634143.3010907@thelounge.net> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:13:39 +0200 Organization: the lounge interactive design User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110831 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <1314966424.2150.26.camel@guybrush> <4E60F712.4010901@lerdorf.com> <4E612BBA.2000509@oracle.com> <4E612D70.70606@sugarcrm.com> <4E616A8E.8040401@lerdorf.com> <4E617B3F.4080105@sugarcrm.com> <4E617C9B.1040504@lerdorf.com> <4E617E2B.7070507@sugarcrm.com> <4E618811.4010703@lerdorf.com> <4E630091.4070009@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: <4E630091.4070009@sugarcrm.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=7F780279; url=http://arrakis.thelounge.net/gpg/h.reindl_thelounge.net.pub.txt Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD36842CB2F10098860D5DBB3" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mysqlnd default over libmysql in 5.4 From: h.reindl@thelounge.net (Reindl Harald) --------------enigD36842CB2F10098860D5DBB3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 04.09.2011 06:37, schrieb Stas Malyshev: > Hi! >=20 > On 9/2/11 6:51 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> Forget the failed tests. A new PHP release is about improving the >> ecosystem. If the folks that maintain libmysql and mysqlnd suggest tha= t >> mysqlnd is more robust and it is the path forward, why would we resist= >> this? Do we not trust Oracle/MySQL enough to listen to their input? >=20 > Because of the little thing called BC? what the hell are you speaking about? again: running some hundret domains and made the switch to PHP 5.3 AND mysqlnd at once, no single problem - there are no differences in the real world and yes we are running ALL servers with error_reporting E_ALL | E_STRICT > Right now I have at least two tests suggesting mysqlnd has different > semantics than libmysql,=20 so why are these not reported upstream 1 year ago and fixed? > and not in some obscure corners either but in functions most people use= every day in every > piece of code. This is worrying >>> 2. last_insert_id semantics change. The test expects select queries t= o reset last insert >>> it to 0, which does not happen with libmysql. Maybe it happens on lat= er versions of mysql >>> server, I do not know mhh in the real world some function makes the insert and giving back the = ID this maybe only relevant in spaghetti code and even there you fetch the insertid after the insert and not 2000 lines later --------------enigD36842CB2F10098860D5DBB3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5jQUQACgkQhmBjz394Ank2iACfcsUdWOth6JzXRDoJ1qabCOzp j5cAoIdIFoQ8y+O0z72XvJmBbEji7A5d =gnbd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD36842CB2F10098860D5DBB3--