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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:36:12 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Why does mysqlnd get included in Linux 'core' PHP5 packages?
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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It is part of the default exts just like on unix with the difference window=
s
has no libmysql support anymore since 5.3
On Sep 3, 2011 12:17 PM, "Ferenc Kovacs" <tyra3l@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>> New thread ...
>>
>>>> My SUSE installs all have mysqlnd included in the core, As do other
>>>> Linux distributions. I think for much the same reason that the windows
>>>> builds do as well? The PHP development team have decided that
>>>> -without-mysqlnd is required to remove it rather than -with-mysqlnd is
>>>> with other optional packages. THAT decision determines what the
>>>> distributions all do and flags mysqlnd as a core package?
>>>
>>> But I just told you that wasn't the case. Try it yourself. Download the
>>> PHP tarball on your SUSE box and do ./configure && make
>>> Show me where mysqlnd is linked in. It isn't.
>>
>> OK done that ...
>>
>> http://lsces.co.uk/PHP/testphpinfo.php is the current PHP install manage=
d
>> via SUSE. Additional .ini files shows what I've added from the package
>> manager (and my own extension builds), yet mysqlnd is listed as well.
>>
>> I will put my hands up that I am only _building_ my own distributions on
>> windows, but since the core packages I am seeing on SUSE and Mandriva ar=
e
>> the same as a default windows build, as provided by phpinfo(), I did
assume
>> php was doing the same thing on Linux as windows. It would be useful if
they
>> DID do the same thing? But now the question is why do the Linux
>> distributions do what they do?
>>
>> I have to add -without-mysqlnd in the windows builds, and expected the
same
>> in the linux ones, but I'm not finding any switch in './configure --help=
'
to
>> enable/disable it at all, so how is it included in the core package that
>> Linux distributions are supplying? Since the bulk of users will be using
a
>> php distribution, rather than building their own, should there not be
some
>> correlation between what is being tested and what is being used by most
>> users? In the past the first we know about problems such as the fun with
>> re-writing everybody's 'date' class is when the hosts apply the latest
>> updates? So saying it's not a PHP problem is not really an option? On on=
e
>> hand one wants to update to get the latest security fixes, but there is
the
>> niggling doubt that something will get broken in the process ... so one
>> switches this off just in case :(
>>
>> I hope this also explains some of the background to other posts I've
made. A
>> Firebird and Apache install run fairly transparently on either Linux or
>> Windows ( and I understand Mac ) with little need to document
differences,
>> but PHP can be fun to get a parallel system work on both.
>>
>
> mysql is(should be) disabled by default in the makefiles, so you have
> to pass --with-mysql* arguments to explicitly enable mysql in your
> build.
> if you don't need it, you can just omit the --with-mysql or set it to 'no=
'
> I don't know much about OpenSuse, but for debian you have to
> explicitly install the php5-mysql package, without that, you have no
> mysql related module in the module list generated by php -m.
>
> the windows build however seems interesting, I've just downloaded the
> php-5.3.8-nts-Win32-VC9-x86.zip package, and it shows the mysqlnd in
> the module list, albeit I don't see that explicitly added in the
> configure line:
> Configure Command =3D> cscript /nologo configure.js
> "--enable-snapshot-build" "--enable-debug-pack" "--disable-zts"
> "--disable-isapi" "--disable-nsapi" "--without-mssql"
> "--without-pdo-mssql" "--without-pi3web"
> "--with-pdo-oci=3DD:\php-sdk\oracle\instantclient10\sdk,shared"
> "--with-oci8=3DD:\php-sdk\oracle\instantclient10\sdk,shared"
> "--with-oci8-11g=3DD:\php-sdk\oracle\instantclient11\sdk,shared"
> "--with-enchant=3Dshared" "--enable-object-out-dir=3D../obj/"
> "--enable-com-dotnet" "--with-mcrypt=3Dstatic"
> "--disable-static-analyze"
>
> maybe Pierre can elaborate why is that.
>
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> Ferenc Kov=E1cs
> @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
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