Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55121 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 98187 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2011 22:10:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2011 22:10:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 67.192.241.143 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.192.241.143 smtp143.dfw.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [67.192.241.143] ([67.192.241.143:46297] helo=smtp143.dfw.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 30/FB-31460-054516E4 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:10:25 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp24.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4ED8A1801B8; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 18:10:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp24.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id CFC4C18013C; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 18:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4E61544D.9070401@sugarcrm.com> Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:10:21 -0700 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ulf Wendel CC: "internals@lists.php.net" References: <1314966424.2150.26.camel@guybrush> <4E60F712.4010901@lerdorf.com> <4E612BBA.2000509@oracle.com> <4E612D70.70606@sugarcrm.com> <1314994484.2150.49.camel@guybrush> <4E613ECC.2010007@sugarcrm.com> <4E61401C.1060009@sugarcrm.com> <1314997040.2150.61.camel@guybrush> <4E6146D9.9050402@phpdoc.de> <4E614B00.7080902@sugarcrm.com> <4E614FF7.1040804@phpdoc.de> In-Reply-To: <4E614FF7.1040804@phpdoc.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mysqlnd default over libmysql in 5.4 From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! On 9/2/11 2:51 PM, Ulf Wendel wrote: > if you are really concerned about tests, aren't you a bit late, are all > the 5.3 releases to be considered instable. I mean, they use the same The fact that 5.3 had so many failing tests is nothing good, but we can't fix the past. We can try to make it not happen in the future - namely, in 5.4. > tests. Andrey may know better, but I even assume mysqlnd to be very, > very similar in 5.3 and 5.4. How strong is your argument, how many > critical differences are you aware of that prevent a config.m4 change? None of these issues prevent the default change, the default change is a completely separate issue. I just think introducing another issue to deal with - and literally days before the release, without any serious discussion - is wrong. We were burned so many times on this, and there's absolutely no reason to rush with it. This is absolutely different and unrelated issue to the issue of unit tests, except for the fact that I do this there's a reason to rush with that and I want our energies rather be spent on that. > With all given respect, I think you are going a bit far here. You seem > to be extrapolating from "test x does not work in configuration y" to "z > is instable/incompatible with y". Oh no, I didn't make any claims about mysqlnd being unstable, if I said something that can be understood that I have misspoken and that's not what I meant to say. I'm just trying to avoid late-minute changes without enough consideration. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227