Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55118 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93531 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2011 21:51:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2011 21:51:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain phpdoc.de from 212.227.17.9 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.17.9 moutng.kundenserver.de Received: from [212.227.17.9] ([212.227.17.9:53549] helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 57/0B-31460-CFF416E4 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:51:57 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.26] (p5B06A5D2.dip.t-dialin.net [91.6.165.210]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lvupd-1RFw4C2qPl-018CC5; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 23:51:53 +0200 Message-ID: <4E614FF7.1040804@phpdoc.de> Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 23:51:51 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "internals@lists.php.net" References: <1314966424.2150.26.camel@guybrush> <4E60F712.4010901@lerdorf.com> <4E612BBA.2000509@oracle.com> <4E612D70.70606@sugarcrm.com> <1314994484.2150.49.camel@guybrush> <4E613ECC.2010007@sugarcrm.com> <4E61401C.1060009@sugarcrm.com> <1314997040.2150.61.camel@guybrush> <4E6146D9.9050402@phpdoc.de> <4E614B00.7080902@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: <4E614B00.7080902@sugarcrm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:KeRvXn6bA/otOS9tkNI1ggHmaIOdrrKrbtaxRgeVKuW YUM4opeFxSQZUlKHcnj3UvN8gxtPu0j4D9FdpltbDY/XL36ea2 FiBeUmTV9K+eai/YT8i+vrgbys+w4Rxc1VxG5ugLC2KoCS55lH 66QD4mDL9DUR8UwQfb93ui++huunywcgnFkkwxMuak9Qpo7C0N n0J0FF3Lr9YG7LXYCfW0pxGwiEfQbIqpvYc4HLeex63AXwO6Ey jEtelKJI+t+T89b5hksDEUX8b86huNnXgqLl1mGjy6+lAAgKv7 SHCKxy36iBXOz23mML/CUpmIk1FpQ4qANnbKyK4jhJLe9g7Q39 3P9ocsYs5kZMg0qZjDDI= Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mysqlnd default over libmysql in 5.4 From: ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de (Ulf Wendel) Am 02.09.2011 23:30, schrieb Stas Malyshev: > Hi! > > On 9/2/11 2:12 PM, Ulf Wendel wrote: >> I think, such a statement is quite a big step towards your test >> concerns, Stas. Ultimately, I still don't get what you (Stas) are after >> with the test discussion. Have I missed any of your worries? > > My concerns is first and foremost to have unit tests passing and > compatibility API issues sorted out - such as same functions producing > different semantics on libmysql and mysqlnd. This is my primary concern, > especially if we want to have beta anytime soon :) Stas, if you are really concerned about tests, aren't you a bit late, are all the 5.3 releases to be considered instable. I mean, they use the same tests. Andrey may know better, but I even assume mysqlnd to be very, very similar in 5.3 and 5.4. How strong is your argument, how many critical differences are you aware of that prevent a config.m4 change? If there are criticial differences of much practical relevance, how could we miss them, why are we not seeing more bug reports? With all given respect, I think you are going a bit far here. You seem to be extrapolating from "test x does not work in configuration y" to "z is instable/incompatible with y". You have one argument against the config.m4 change that I get - the packaging/distribution one. But the test does not pass with X/Y/Z_old seems a bit weak to me. I hope, nobody is angry if I call it a day. Enjoy the weekend, Ulf