Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55113 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83982 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2011 21:13:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 2011 21:13:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain phpdoc.de from 212.227.126.187 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.126.187 moutng.kundenserver.de Received: from [212.227.126.187] ([212.227.126.187:53842] helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5D/29-31460-ED6416E4 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:13:03 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.26] (p5B06A5D2.dip.t-dialin.net [91.6.165.210]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M3fC1-1RGzP941mz-00rnHQ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 23:12:59 +0200 Message-ID: <4E6146D9.9050402@phpdoc.de> Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 23:12:57 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <1314966424.2150.26.camel@guybrush> <4E60F712.4010901@lerdorf.com> <4E612BBA.2000509@oracle.com> <4E612D70.70606@sugarcrm.com> <1314994484.2150.49.camel@guybrush> <4E613ECC.2010007@sugarcrm.com> <4E61401C.1060009@sugarcrm.com> <1314997040.2150.61.camel@guybrush> In-Reply-To: <1314997040.2150.61.camel@guybrush> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:etiZhUGpcphJp4o/Ol9+8nncjVeckm6opVRMAt712ML hAdZjDNgKyTvhfhLA8sf7SxFKWkui4Xf0fAn62D406WwX3tNBj JnysbU2EHu7wrE3DjCevVsnOIu0jPKyiT+TaB8Mys9P6aT8+ji xKxsTCBGDxlWPKjaQZEe0ILvz/iYSyHqVCQEST+WfBifuOyDGj Sb9aGAD3BcqOC3bLRjXdqYbrzRrxNpYZxAiR9WSHtCvv+OCjnC 5DtQxi9GFawi11peQfzhf49SbReqQgj/PFQ+FVXEQgezBC67O0 jzDP7bOmse7MJN4KhaBNkTcU55z6ZcVUBQwh7tZiTLxONGnH07 wW2vcEGpjJL5WHP241bw= Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mysqlnd default over libmysql in 5.4 From: ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de (Ulf Wendel) Am 02.09.2011 22:57, schrieb Johannes Schlüter: > On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 22:48 +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> On 9/2/11 1:41 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >>>> >>>> I think you missed the referenced [1]: >>>> >>>> [1] Yes, we will still allow building with libmysql and we will fix bugs >>>> reported there and we will verify it works but focus on mysqlnd, as >>>> we're actually handling it already >>> >>> I did not miss it - I do not see what it means. Either we support both - and >>> then for the matter of development and testing nothing changes - or >>> something changes, namely "we remove one moving piece out of the test >>> equation", the moving piece being libmysql - and "remove" means "remove". I >>> just don't see how you can have both of these things at the same time. >> >> I think that Johannes means that mysqld would be the preferred or >> baseline for the mysql tests. >> maybe supporting IE6 would be a good metaphor: you could say that you >> support every browser equally, or you could say that you write your >> stuff for the modern browsers and tests it against IE6 and fix where >> necessary. >> Johannes, is this what you had in mind? > > Thanks, I like your analogy and don't have a better one. Let's see if I get it right. Johannes and I say: - libmysql support is there and it will stay there - libmysql shall continue to be supported - tests shall be written in a portable way, whenever possible We furthermore said, let me put it straigt: - we failed to catch some libmysql/MySQL/test version combination portability issues - shit happens, sorry for that - testing any extension that has external dependencies is a pain I think, such a statement is quite a big step towards your test concerns, Stas. Ultimately, I still don't get what you (Stas) are after with the test discussion. Have I missed any of your worries? Ulf