Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:54925 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97320 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2011 09:56:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Aug 2011 09:56:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ivan.enderlin@hoa-project.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ivan.enderlin@hoa-project.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain hoa-project.net from 87.106.212.190 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ivan.enderlin@hoa-project.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 87.106.212.190 s15355703.onlinehome-server.info Linux 2.6 Received: from [87.106.212.190] ([87.106.212.190:51158] helo=s15355703.onlinehome-server.info) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6B/84-06524-F4C165E4 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 05:56:32 -0400 Received: from hwhost.local (85-218-15-56.dclient.lsne.ch [85.218.15.56]) by s15355703.onlinehome-server.info (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 29C16E4018; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:56:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E561C4C.7050307@hoa-project.net> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:56:28 +0200 Reply-To: ivan.enderlin@hoa-project.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Soria Parra CC: Derick Rethans , Stas Malyshev , David Soria Parra , "internals@lists.php.net" References: <4E556A0B.4010406@sugarcrm.com> <4E5615C6.1050702@hoa-project.net> <4E5617CD.5050606@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <4E5617CD.5050606@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Choosing a distributed version control system for PHP From: ivan.enderlin@hoa-project.net ("Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa") On 25/08/11 11:37, David Soria Parra wrote: > > On 08/25/2011 11:28 AM, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote: >> On 25/08/11 11:15, Derick Rethans wrote: >>> On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote: I agree, and I also think >>> that before people can make a choice they need to have played with >>> all the options. Just picking "git" because that's what you heard >>> of and what all the fan boys like is *not* the correct way to go. >>> In order to make a choice, and even consider switching away from >>> SVN, something that *works* just fine, you need to know the >>> systems (ie, git and hg). >> +10. I think a vote is prematured right now. > so what do you suggest? We talk about the topic for 3 weeks now, and I > think waiting any longer will not make more people familar with HG. So > how do you make people take a look at the VCS in question? I'm open > for suggestions. I know. It's a difficult choice. But if we change our VCS for a DVCS, we do it for contributors or=20 maintainers? If maintainers are the most concerned people, they should=20 give a try to Hg and Git for a period longer than 2 weeks (2 months=20 seems to be a reasonable period, 1 month with Hg, 1 month with Git). For the moment, the vote is opened to contributors. Maybe it's not a=20 good =93target=94 for the vote. > > People now have 2 weeks to try out PHP by using the mirrors from either= > git.php.net or hg.php.net and see how their favourite system works. For= > me it seems most people don't even read the RFC and the recommendation,= > so I don't expect them to try out the VCS, but I don't have a clue how > to change it. I don't too. I think Git is more complicated than Hg and I regret the=20 way the vote is changing. But, I repeat, I think the target for the vote = is not appropriated. > > Joking: Next time I'll add a survey that you need to complete > successfully before being alllowed to vote ;). s/Joking/Todo/ :-) Best regards. --=20 Ivan Enderlin Developer of Hoa http://hoa.42/ or http://hoa-project.net/ Member of HTML and WebApps Working Group of W3C http://w3.org/