Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:54854 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 72464 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2011 09:50:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Aug 2011 09:50:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.170 mail-gx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.170] ([209.85.161.170:54354] helo=mail-gx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7A/74-48631-879C45E4 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 05:50:48 -0400 Received: by gxk27 with SMTP id 27so955333gxk.29 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 02:50:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=z8LaIAjXvlxtgAl38oTLpksa+VA1paVPf2p3PdLY0EE=; b=Qfqz39cn37wqFJagpt/U8j7la3HLzym++QdFPQjcD+nOPmcvZC/awDgXeS5u0qaoEW vXAte0zpX4esWzDlMtxQck9EVtgmoGdqPcku4epIX6HZuv4lugf7gOE0SubowjW91lFA 30SN6lgXJlWvUaOsSNItRnHiMFbBCLht6XhdQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.17.13 with SMTP id u13mr4950572yai.31.1314179446033; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 02:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.146.83.5 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 02:50:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1314115682.2635.98.camel@guybrush> <4E545A6C.60704@akbkhome.com> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:50:45 +0200 Message-ID: To: Derick Rethans Cc: "alan@akbkhome.com" , internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.3.8 Released! From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:57 AM, alan@akbkhome.com w= rote: >> > It might have been better to have waited for the is_a() fix to get sor= ted >> > out.. - It's a very annoying BC break (changes the documented behaviou= r), >> > and now it means we need 4.3.9 in a few more days. >> > >> > Let me know if you need help testing / applying etc.. >> > >> >> from what I understand, this won't be changed, as the current behavior >> is correct, the old was a bug: > > It is also a BC break! Yes, it should be fixed, but only in 5.4. This > kind of little changes is what makes people look at PHP as a joke! > agree with keeping the BC as much as possible, but from the responses from the others (Dmitry, Stas, Zeev) and the nature of the change (changing the undefined behavior of the function) and the fact that it is already out there (and changing this back and releasing a new version now or later would be even more wrong) my guess is that we will keep the new behavior. --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu