Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:54675 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38754 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2011 09:54:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Aug 2011 09:54:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.125 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.125 c2bthomr07.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.125] ([213.123.20.125:17802] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7F/91-29933-C61EC4E4 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 05:54:53 -0400 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.4_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr07.btconnect.com with ESMTP id EEJ55481; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:49:57 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4E4CE045.4010500@lsces.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:49:57 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SUSE/2.0.14-2.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <4E4B7845.8@lsces.co.uk> <4E4BD968.6060706@garfieldtech.com> <4E4CC012.2040304@lsces.co.uk> <4E4CCD44.1000909@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0303.4E4CE045.00A2, actions=TAG X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2011.7.19.51514:17:7.586, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr07.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0202.4E4CE169.01FA:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2010-07-22 22:03:31, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Choosing a distributed version control system for PHP - problems From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Pierre Joye wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Lester Caine wrote: >> > Pierre Joye wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Lester Caine wrote: >>>> >>> >>>>> >>> > Pierre Joye wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>> >> Another great example of a successful is the freedesktop project. >>>>>>> >>>> >> They >>>>>>> >>>> >> have 100s of sub project and each of them have modules. >>>> >>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > Can I suggest you have a closer look at this conversion Pierre and >>>>> >>> > work out >>>>> >>> > what is currently missing from it ... hint - as a new developer how do >>>>> >>> > I >>>>> >>> > 'check out (clone)' a copy of libraoffice. >>> >> >>> >> By RTFM:http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/ >> > >> > Exactly ... >> > While there were separate submodules for each section, as a result of >> > converting the modular structure of the original CVS code base, those are >> > now marked as obsolete (http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice ) because >> > submodules does not work well, they have simply rolled the modules back into >> > core ... a single monolithic repo:( > That's not the reason but the changes in how it was developed. Well I started a clone over an hour ago, and it's not 5% through yet ... many of the sections it's currently downloading I do not need to bother about. > See gstreamer or xorg for other examples with multiple modules. Again neither of those seem to be using 'superprojects', just the odd library included as a submodule. This was the problem I hit last year. A nice CVS repo got translated into some 200 git repo's, but there still is no easy way of building a 'project' that pulls the say a core build with all the essential modules. You end up writing scripts to pull each and manage them individually. I would anticipate that php is probably larger than the libraoffice codebase, so being able to properly manage modular builds is going to be important? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php