Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:54308 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63937 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2011 07:35:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Aug 2011 07:35:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.125 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.125 c2bthomr07.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.125] ([213.123.20.125:35295] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DC/D1-46920-A3AF83E4 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:35:23 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.4] (host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr07.btconnect.com (MOS 4.2.2-FCS) with ESMTP id EAI09267; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 08:35:10 +0100 X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0301.4E38FA2E.0079, actions=TAG Message-ID: <4E38FA2E.4030605@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 08:35:10 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SUSE/2.0.14-2.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <4E3898B0.40809@sugarcrm.com> <4E38EC0C.9080304@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <4E38EC0C.9080304@lerdorf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2011.7.19.51514:17:7.586, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_SIZE_1100_1199, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr07.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0204.4E38FA37.01A5,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2010-07-22 22:03:31, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Weak References From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > I think the only valid point for putting this in core is that it does > feel more like a core feature than a pecl add-on. However, a number of > us are uncomfortable with the impact of it and would like to understand > better how people other than yourself would use it, or more likely, > mis-use it. I think this is were I am sitting at the moment ... If a script needs to tidy up memory because something has gone wrong, then in my book the script is faulty? The example of why it is needed does not make sense to me, probably because I don't understand it, firing an action on the database end and trying to then simply tidy up the the php end cache without a clean reload just seems wrong? How do you know what the stored procedure/trigger/business logic has done to the underlying data? But I've never used MySQL :) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php