Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:54290 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49728 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2011 15:16:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Aug 2011 15:16:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.187 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.187 c2beaomr09.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.187] ([213.123.26.187:34335] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 62/8C-19408-ED4183E4 for ; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 11:16:47 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.4] (host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr09.btconnect.com (MOS 4.2.2-FCS) with ESMTP id DWS46761; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 16:16:27 +0100 X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0302.4E3814CB.0003, actions=tag Message-ID: <4E3814C9.2020407@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:16:25 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SUSE/2.0.14-2.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2011.8.2.135115:17:7.586, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_SIZE_1500_1599, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr09.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0206.4E3814DB.00C3,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2010-07-22 22:03:31, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Weak References From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Hannes Landeholm wrote: > I've been a PHP fan for years and endured the patchy OO implementation > and the limitations that has come with the language for the > simplicity. Unfortunately I don't have time to wait for years even if > many of you guys do. If I did I wouldn't have bothered writing the RFC > or writing in this mailing list. You guys should look into this new > rapid release cycle thing. It's the next iteration of software > development. The fast development root does seem to have been a little screwed up recently, but if there is nothing in an extension that requires direct access to the core and that extension CAN simply be enabled as required, then pecl is the way to go? We do need the pecl area to be properly included in the build process with windows builds being created just as they used to be, but the process is working fine for APC and perhaps the plan should be to moving some more extensions that are being worked on between PHP releases into the pecl process? It used to be that many of the extensions I used were managed in pecl ... and I'd be quite happy if they moved back there. There is nothing stopping 'Weak References' being added by those who want them ... but I can't see the point myself when running scripts live. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php