Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:54012 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 75698 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2011 00:46:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jul 2011 00:46:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=philip@roshambo.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=philip@roshambo.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain roshambo.org from 209.85.210.170 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: philip@roshambo.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.210.170 mail-iy0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.210.170] ([209.85.210.170:49233] helo=mail-iy0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C4/46-23384-662832E4 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:46:41 -0400 Received: by iym1 with SMTP id 1so2857196iym.29 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.146.65 with SMTP id i1mr7217989icv.201.1310949986995; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (c-174-61-179-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [174.61.179.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f13sm2542498ibe.27.2011.07.17.17.46.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <4E237EC9.3070503@sugarcrm.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:46:24 -0700 Cc: "RQuadling@GMail.com" , Daniel Convissor , PHP Internals List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <46348DB2-2E2D-4058-B796-ADB6E42EDC8B@roshambo.org> References: <4E17F5A0.3070409@sugarcrm.com> <4E1B9343.3090000@sugarcrm.com> <967B58EB-C704-40CD-AFEE-D0CA2192F4FA@roshambo.org> <4E1DC072.8080300@sugarcrm.com> <4E1DE20E.20902@sugarcrm.com> <4E1DEE7C.8030203@sugarcrm.com> <20110717010457.GA22595@panix.com> <4E237EC9.3070503@sugarcrm.com> To: Stas Malyshev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] 5.4 features vote From: philip@roshambo.org (Philip Olson) On Jul 17, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! >=20 > On 7/17/11 3:03 PM, Richard Quadling wrote: >> Why bother having defaults if you don't use them. >=20 > Err, well, the way PHP ini system works you always have defaults - = something is always stored in the hash. His point was that you consider the distributed php.ini-* files to = define the default values,=20 as opposed to the actual defaults. Defaults are defaults for a reason, = and they should not be=20 dismissed.=20 >> My local ini file is 6 lines long. Works perfectly. >=20 > And you rely on magic_quotes being on, right? Then you have peculiar = definition of "working perfectly". Nobody here said they rely on magic quotes, and that is not related to = what a default value means,=20 or how they are handled. Regards, Philip