Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53945 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20185 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2011 19:30:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Jul 2011 19:30:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.170 mail-gx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.170] ([209.85.161.170:57884] helo=mail-gx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 04/E1-10669-852FD1E4 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:30:32 -0400 Received: by gxk27 with SMTP id 27so2890715gxk.29 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:30:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=At4c+ZlGgw9GXv/gGMUn++GhoRIAWSBWwRAWeTun/uA=; b=ES3tRkUtVwrCYtkautSqlEOqFU1ABK4GWEZfaYhvguHozTDauwsDll2DPdjtnwPZ+F 7ZxIABfCPz9JSSPfowDm4JRmajOut+7i4tsnckgAGO19NcXNeyYsPZpLr7eMdTN8R5kM aOKm2PvfmZcQLbgHBiI+R0gEUpo8VnK1sPrBo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.53.19 with SMTP id b19mr1620242yba.37.1310585429838; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.137.11 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E1DF1E9.7080101@lerdorf.com> References: <4E1DDBB4.3070301@php.net> <4E1DE5A8.90505@lerdorf.com> <4E1DEFB0.1010208@lerdorf.com> <4E1DF1E9.7080101@lerdorf.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:30:29 +0200 Message-ID: To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Make primitive type names reserved words (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] 5.4 features for vote (long)) From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > Right, but these folks that don't follow the discussions are the same 37 > people who voted for the Primitives change. How is that helpful? Many of the votes there are not from developers. We have explained what happened earlier this week. I don't think it is necessary to discuss this problem again here as it is fixed (Tyrael implemented the voting ACL and is now used). > I think a vote should be a big deal. Anything that comes up for a vote > should have a healthy discussion and an extremely well-fleshed out RFC > which includes both sides of the argument culled from the healthy > discussion. And the voting page should heavily encourage people to > actually read the RFC in its entirety before voting. Fully agreed and that's what the voting RFC says as well. And why I said that simple todos should not have been submitted to votes except those requiring RFC due to their complexity or whatever else. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org