Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53931 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93464 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2011 17:30:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Jul 2011 17:30:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.42 mail-yw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.42] ([209.85.213.42:36032] helo=mail-yw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 73/30-24992-436DD1E4 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:30:29 -0400 Received: by ywb6 with SMTP id 6so2583051ywb.29 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:30:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6ogUto5xbNJBVSqiqBrn7QoJOqnWjbfRGiYsU0Nc2k8=; b=AM6k0t0WeLOAJc5RQP+yoZJmwufWFdsfxiIHDM4R69BiC2vSec40RSuKT+ToJdyRtC 9sPA5SMYL//In01vQZ6tN2DxxfcPI7V0e4bbfTxhFsrsHttJO9ufKfA/PS4Tn8U2kwrA xFB8qe+IcBXbi++LFQnSiFD0vi4C7DtevjX5s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.170.4 with SMTP id s4mr1584310ybe.208.1310578225672; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.137.11 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:30:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:30:25 +0200 Message-ID: To: Hannes Magnusson Cc: David Soria Parra , internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Make primitive type names reserved words (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] 5.4 features for vote (long)) From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi Hannes, On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 20:02, David Soria Parra wrote: >> On 2011-07-12, Pierre Joye wrote: >>> hi, >>> >>> As of now I do not think we should allow this change, whether the RFC >>> is accepted or not does not matter as it will badly break BC. Unless >>> there is a patch allowing this change without affecting existing code >>> (main point being namespaced code working smoothly), this RFC should >>> be rejected. >>> >>> Cheers, >> >> >> I think this change has too much of an impact on backward compatibility. >> As long as we don't have a concrete implementation, I think we should >> let string, int not be reserved words. Argumentes were already presented. >> >> ps.: Pierre you might want to consider changing your vote in the wiki > > > This thread is an excellent example why attempting to reach consensus > by discussing things is important. > Voting should be considered as an desperate last resort, not the > primary mechanism. > > http://producingoss.com/en/consensus-democracy.html has several very > related points. I disagree and this exact issue shows that the voting and controlling is actually working well, very well. As it is covered by the two recently adopted RFCs. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org