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To: Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations
From: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com (Hannes Magnusson)

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:56, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Hannes Magnusson
> <hannes.magnusson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:45, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> On 7/11/11 1:23 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> if somebody wonders why do we have those french guys registering on the
>>>> wiki:
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.mageekbox.net/?post/2011/07/10/La-r%C3%A9volution-est-en-marche-%21
>>>>
>>>> the author thought that anybody can vote who has wiki account, but
>>>> that is corrected now.
>>>> however judging from the responses and the number of registrations I
>>>> think we should publish something to the php.net frontpage about the
>>>> accepted voting RFC, and maybe rephrase or clean up the who can vote
>>>> part.
>>>>
>>>> for example can someone with svn account and 1 commit vote?
>>>
>>> I'd say for core features everybody with write access to the core, but then
>>> again, not sure about how to formalize that. Note that vote isn't meant to
>>> be the decision. At least I think it wasn't and shouldn't mean that. It
>>> should be a measure of if there's a consensus about certain thing or not.
>>>
>>> As for technical side, I don't know enough about how the auth system works
>>> to see if we can enforce it technically. If somebody with this
>>> knowledge is willing to help, please ping me and we can discuss how to
>>> implement this in docuwiki.
>>
>> I thought I had pointed this out already.
>>
>> AFAICT anyone with wiki account can vote. And anyone can get wiki account.
>>
>> People with wiki accounts however cannot modify any content because we
>> have write restrictions on everything, so before this vote plugin came
>> along a wiki account was utterly useless without an admin explicitly
>> giving write karma.
>
> Yes, hence why I said we have to fix that in the moodle plugin. But
> who can vote is clearly define. Now, I'd to ask wiki admins to do not
> accept random accounts for the fun to accept them. Thanks.


There is no "accept an account". Thanks.

Creating an account in the wiki, creates an account.
Like I said, the user doesn't have write access to anything unless
someone explicitly gives him write access (usually to /rfc, or /web).
That generally happens when the account register reads the register
page and send an email to this list and explains why he needs an
account.

-Hannes