Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:5382 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32789 invoked by uid 1010); 12 Nov 2003 12:10:49 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32744 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2003 12:10:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.66) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2003 12:10:49 -0000 Received: from nutextonline.com ([209.214.41.62]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031112121048.CYVJ21803.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@nutextonline.com>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:10:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FB23349.8040004@nutextonline.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:19:05 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031013 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "[PHP-DEV]" , Andi Gutmans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3 From: lateralus@nutextonline.com (Derek Ford) ______________________________________________________________________ And - maybe Zend can help here - to enforce the communication of php5 and it's features (i.e. pay some good people to write an extra-column on zend-website, php-website and wellknow php-portals around the world, introducing STEP BY STEP and CONTINUOUSLY the new php5-features, ...). ______________________________________________________________________ I'm co admin for a large php community, If someone can start throwing me emails for bug fixes/changes (whatever the changes may be, doesn't have to be /ext changes, send me extension work as well.) I'll definately start writing articles covering them. Getting the community ready for php5 is extremely important, and probably needs a little more attention than most people have time to give ( most of you need to code, not write documentation :) ). I would suggest starting a mailing list or some such for the admins of php community websites, where you guys can write up small explanations and lists of your changes that make it to cvs. ______________________________________________________________________ I will get something started if you like, the weight of having each of the developers do something on top of the standard docs would be a little excessive. But I agree it would be nice to have a 'What to expect from PHP5' article out there. Or perhaps a series of of articles on the most important features? ______________________________________________________________________ If anyone sends me a list of changes, send it to either this address ( lateralus@nutextonline.com ) or shadowed@asleep.net. Anything sent to me will be added to changes submitted by others and the array will be peiced together for articles at www.phpfreaks.com. As for Zend specific changes, I would probably want to write up articles for that separately, (andi :) ), as they would be more important. I'll be starting out hacking around in core soon, and hopefully will be ready to help bug fix sooner than later. A community for core hackers has been started at the phpfreaks forums, as well as an accompanying irc channel. ( irc.freenode.net, #php.devel ), it would probably help get things moving as far as development goes to get a lot of the developers together so they can discuss matters closely. (ps: ) Another thing to help would be better documentation on certain aspects of hacking core ( even though, as said before, most people should be coding, and not writing documentation :p ).