Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53807 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73249 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2011 20:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Jul 2011 20:20:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mike@rile.ca; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mike@rile.ca; sender-id=unknown; domainkeys=good Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain rile.ca from 208.113.200.5 cause and error) DomainKey-Status: good X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mike@rile.ca X-Host-Fingerprint: 208.113.200.5 caibbdcaaaaf.dreamhost.com Windows 98 (1) Received: from [208.113.200.5] ([208.113.200.5:54119] helo=homiemail-a47.g.dreamhost.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 84/61-63663-3A90A1E4 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:20:52 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4817284058; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:20:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=rile.ca; h=reply-to:from:to :references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=rile.ca; b=C/y yEbkaIrND2G/BtjbaHk9+LJDlGQvY/Z2Wv/IR+7EjR8HOGgxUUSIIXtj8v5FMNmn gT4G4ZbwalWSXEJiwiHygNvnqIluP3j2H8p0ZyYv1VJyQ+wAi1xXy7p9XEuPe3af xFGad1e2iuCG3/90lOzj+mMQ3TEptya6HLJ+ecCg= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=rile.ca; h=reply-to:from :to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=rile.ca; bh=cKvM/Ye3U qJeG+CnnsJOwbrTF9I=; b=JvZzkmNZsk7aKFgfvGmD+YCIxndH8CW8LGILGikkY nEQrdmLhAsIFn0yBBGiZ0v2H3iSLOKfohBB8Fs7xh3pf7Rf3zhtmWTW8UiMe/dyo NJfUAIRWzgYKGBtf08pkdDFMPIx4HwMnh9TS6iOBrq/8dGODq27vrR8vauy/htjc Y8= Received: from MikePCToo (s72-38-93-190.static.comm.cgocable.net [72.38.93.190]) (Authenticated sender: mike@rile.ca) by homiemail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6C230284056; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: To: "'Reindl Harald'" , References: <9F1FA580-FD3F-4C3F-9E26-51A095CF6EE9@roshambo.org> <4E19DE3A.2050303@thelounge.net> In-Reply-To: <4E19DE3A.2050303@thelounge.net> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:20:46 -0400 Message-ID: <000301cc3f3e$db4339c0$91c9ad40$@ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acw/JSoghsQMyfZTSESTt3OKYBqvmgAF+dPg Content-Language: en-ca Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] deprecating ext/mysql From: mike@rile.ca ("Mike Robinson") On July-10-11 1:16 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 10.07.2011 19:03, schrieb Philip Olson: > > What this means to ext/mysql: > > > > - Softly deprecate ext/mysql with education (docs) starting today > > - Not adding E_DEPRECATED errors in 5.4, but revisit for 5.5/6.0 > > - Add pdo_mysql examples within the ext/mysql docs that mimic the > > - current examples, but occasionally introduce features like > > - prepared statements > > - Focus energy on cleaning up the pdo_mysql and mysqli documentation > > - Create a general "The MySQL situation" document that explains the > > - situation > > > > The PHP community has been recommending alternatives for several > > years now, so hopefully this won't be a new concept or shock to most > > users > > sounds reasonable and i would love to be not forced loading > "mysql.so" AND "mysqli.so" because some peopole are using > legacy code and unwilling to maintain their stuff Sure, some users in the PHP community are aware of this desire. We're talking about tons of developers, vast amounts of legacy code written over 2 decades - longer than many in that same community have been alive. Most developers "out there" are not remotely aware of this. IMHO, it doesn't matter how early the education gets started or how much time and sugar is used to coat this, it'll be a bitter pill for a very large group of people. This needs to be thought out very carefully. Best Regards, Mike Robinson