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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:37:11 +0100
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 RC1
From: Stig.Bakken@overture.com ("Stig S. Bakken")

Yes, but it's not only the engine that would be going into RC, it's the
entire distribution.

John has a very good point in that some of the changes that people are
looking to PHP 5 for will be extension specific, releasing an RC before
the extensions are more or less stable doesn't make sense to me.

I perfectly understand the momentum issue, but IMHO the full product
that's being shipped is not up to RC yet.  Overly long RC cycles are
just painful.

What about rolling b3, await some feedback, and based on that make a
decision on rolling the first RC?

 - Stig

On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 22:26, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> I went over this list today. Some need to be addressed but the majority are 
> not engine problems.
> I suggest everyone here takes a look at them and tries to solve what they can.
> I have already planned time to go over the engine ones.
> 
> Andi
> 
> At 04:29 PM 11/11/2003 -0500, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
> >Andi,
> >
> >According to:
> >http://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=display&bug_ntype[]=Feature%2FChange+Request&bug_ntype[]=Documentation+problem&bug_ntype[]=PECL+related&bug_ntype[]=PHP-GTK+related&bug_ntype[]=Website+problem&status=Open&search_for=&php_os=&boolean=0&author_email=&bug_age=0&by=&order_by=id&direction=ASC&phpver=5&limit=50&assign=&begin=50
> >
> >There are currently over 60 bugs (most Zend Engine 2 related) that are
> >specific to PHP 5.X. Before moving to RC1 it may be a good idea to review the
> >situation. Quite a few of these bugs mention crashes and may expose even more
> >issues in production environment.
> >
> >Ilia