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Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:55:32 +0200
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To: Derick Rethans <derick@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] html_errors default settings
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

hi,

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote:

> They are not useful in production, but as distributions use the
> "php.ini-production", even PHP developer that uses a distribution
> package now doesn't use the "php.ini-development" settings. Hence, no
> more HTML errors and people bitch.

It looks to me like a distro bug or feature request, not a php issue.
They should (and I remember having asked ubuntu to provide such
option) ask the users which kind of environment they wish.

> They "depend" by choice. Xdebug simply enhances how things show up, and
> does not want to mess with the settings that people have already made,
> as that's even a larger WTF point.
>
> The main points are that:
>
> 1. the default changed between 5.2 and 5.3, and I'd like to restore it
> 2. html_errors shouldn't mean that the docref stuff is turned on
> =A0 automatically. The docref stuff is the annoying part, not the HTML
> =A0 formatting. HTML formatting in production is *not* a problem (you
> =A0 should have display_errors=3D0 anyway).
> Main goal: make it easier for developers.

That brings one question, what were the reasons to change that back
then? And why is it a good thing to restore them now, besides xdebug?

Cheers,
--=20
Pierre

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