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Subject: Re: AW: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 RC1
From: andi@zend.com (Andi Gutmans)

At 10:39 PM 11/11/2003 +0100, Wolfgang Drews wrote:
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>Hi,
>
> > I think the PHP 5 tree has matured a lot and it's time to release
> > an RC. I
> > think end of November or mid-December makes sense. I'd like to aim at the
> > former date.
> > Are there any major (as in "major") issues which in your
> > opinion still need to be dealt with?
>
>i would suggest to wait with RCs and go on with beta-releases. The big
>problem with
>php5 is, that most of the php-"user" do not know exactly what will change,
>what php5
>will do better/different and what they will have to change within their
>applications.
>In my opinion there are two reasons for it:
>
>1.) far to less communication
>2.) far to less documentation
>
>these points make it really difficult for the normal developer to migrate to
>php5.
>Well, you can say now there are lots of articles around, explaining this and
>that,
>but this is only one point. The most important thing is imho putting these
>infos
>into the official docs. And - maybe Zend can help here - to enforce the
>communication
>of php5 and it's features (i.e. pay some good people to write an
>extra-column on
>zend-website, php-website and wellknow php-portals around the world,
>introducing
>STEP BY STEP and CONTINUOUSLY the new php5-features, ...). I would call this
>a
>campaign.

I agree. I think we need to take care of this. I wouldn't count on any one 
company for this (although this is also important).
How about the people from internals@ who made changes volunteer to write 
about their changes?

>I understand you at zend wish to enforce speed in release of php5, but think
>about
>"preparing the users for it" and "make it stable"

Actually it's more of a personal ambition.

Andi