Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:5351 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69852 invoked by uid 1010); 11 Nov 2003 21:39:02 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69828 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2003 21:39:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dynamicwebpages.org) (213.133.110.76) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2003 21:39:01 -0000 Received: from [217.230.76.2] (account drews HELO mobileII) by dynamicwebpages.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 256200; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:42:57 +0100 Reply-To: To: "Andi Gutmans" , Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:39:07 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20031111195356.04d4e420@127.0.0.1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: AW: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 RC1 From: drews@dynamicwebpages.de ("Wolfgang Drews") References: <5.1.0.14.2.20031111195356.04d4e420@127.0.0.1> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Hi, > I think the PHP 5 tree has matured a lot and it's time to release > an RC. I > think end of November or mid-December makes sense. I'd like to aim at the > former date. > Are there any major (as in "major") issues which in your > opinion still need to be dealt with? i would suggest to wait with RCs and go on with beta-releases. The big problem with php5 is, that most of the php-"user" do not know exactly what will change, what php5 will do better/different and what they will have to change within their applications. In my opinion there are two reasons for it: 1.) far to less communication 2.) far to less documentation these points make it really difficult for the normal developer to migrate to php5. Well, you can say now there are lots of articles around, explaining this and that, but this is only one point. The most important thing is imho putting these infos into the official docs. And - maybe Zend can help here - to enforce the communication of php5 and it's features (i.e. pay some good people to write an extra-column on zend-website, php-website and wellknow php-portals around the world, introducing STEP BY STEP and CONTINUOUSLY the new php5-features, ...). I would call this a campaign. I understand you at zend wish to enforce speed in release of php5, but think about "preparing the users for it" and "make it stable" well, just my two cents -Wolfgang -- PHP-Knotenpunkt Dynamic Web Pages: http://www.dynamicwebpages.de/ PHP 4.3. Professionelle Losungen fur dynamisches Webpublishing: http://www.php-buch.de/