Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53323 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85753 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2011 10:03:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jun 2011 10:03:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=Pascal.Courtois@nouvo.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=Pascal.Courtois@nouvo.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain nouvo.com from 213.186.62.62 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: Pascal.Courtois@nouvo.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.186.62.62 ks31594.kimsufi.com Received: from [213.186.62.62] ([213.186.62.62:48765] helo=parthenis.mjtv-online.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 62/3D-24246-1E4D9FD4 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 06:03:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by parthenis.mjtv-online.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E01EFC099; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:03:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mjtv-online.com Received: from parthenis.mjtv-online.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ks31594.kimsufi.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VX6LIfdjbZ6g; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:03:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.205] (lns-bzn-47f-62-147-131-15.adsl.proxad.net [62.147.131.15]) by parthenis.mjtv-online.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:03:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DF9D4DF.90405@nouvo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:03:11 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9oYW5uZXMgU2NobMO8dGVy?= CC: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9014CE547@US-EX2.zend.net> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9014D10DC@US-EX2.zend.net> <4DF9913B.4030404@nouvo.com> <4DF99EE8.3070204@nouvo.com> <1308216968.2406.3.camel@guybrush> In-Reply-To: <1308216968.2406.3.camel@guybrush> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) From: Pascal.Courtois@nouvo.com (Pascal COURTOIS) Le 16/06/2011 11:36, Johannes Schlüter a écrit : > On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 08:12 +0200, Pascal COURTOIS wrote: >> Le 16/06/2011 08:01, dukeofgaming a écrit : >> >>> Sorry if the question is dumb, but, how many core developers does PHP have?, >>> how many in total (including non-core contributors)?. >> >> That's not the point. Whatever the project is, every developer should fix >> existing bugs before even thinking about improving. That's the way I do and >> that's why there is no bug I'm aware in my programs. > > Feel free to contribute. PHP is driven by volunteers spending their free > time on it. I know. I also have a GPL project. Nonetheless some societies use it, and some people rely on it to get paid. I have absolutely no legal contract with anyone but I have a moral contract and when I'm signaled a bug, it is mostly fixed within few hours. I just can't imagine replying to a bug submission "Hey guy, its a free project. Why don't you fix it yourself ?" My conscience tells me to not release a program if people using it can shoot themself in the foot. > For many it is more fun to implement new stuff they probably > "need" than fixing bugs in some code which has some side effects which > are not always easy to predict and which they actually don't use. If you followed the thread you have seen the reduced test case is VERY short and the ONLY constructions involved are user functions and exceptions. FULL STOP. Not even a single addition nor a loop nor nothing. I can't imagine nobody uses user functions and exceptions.