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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd)
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com> wrote:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre.php@gmail.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:33 AM
>>To: Andi Gutmans
>>Cc: Derick Rethans; PHP Developers Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd)
>>
>>On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hence my suggestion to bundle MongoDB extension and possibly work on
>>additional extensions. Some of my suggestions probably rightfully didn't =
get
>>much interest such as Thrift.
>>
>>See my comment in your other thread and below.
>>
>>> Maybe we should consider making a list of extensions we think could be
>>beneficial and the new mentorship program can actually help deliver some =
of
>>them?
>>
>>I do not thnk it is a good thing to begin a discussion about this exact t=
opic and
>>then totally ignore it.
>>
>
> I think it got lost in the very long and varying discussions. Will dig up=
 and take a look. I had a couple of hectic weeks.

It was not a long discussion and you began this thread :)
http://news.php.net/php.internals/52898

>>I also think that it is somehow wrong to post something asking to do not =
propose
>>new things when we finally have more people involved in proposals and
>>discussions. Maybe that's just me me but I do think that the main problem=
 we
>>have (besides the ones we identified and try to fix right now) is the com=
plete
>>lack of open discussions about possible new features, in this list with n=
ew or
>>existing contributors.
>
> I did not say we should not propose or have discussions (I am in favor of=
 adding [] for arrays for example). But I am saying the bias should be not =
to include new language functionality unless it has very broad appeal & ser=
ious upside impact. The bias should be against feature creep.

Right, that's why we introduce a voting RFC in addition to the release
RFC, with some "large majority" concept. However I still think that
such posts are inappropriate, timely and generally, while being of
freedom of speak ;-)

Cheers,
--=20
Pierre

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