Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53312 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58394 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2011 07:20:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jun 2011 07:20:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.128 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.128 c2bthomr10.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.128] ([213.123.20.128:24603] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D5/C8-24246-2BEA9FD4 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:20:19 -0400 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.4_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr10.btconnect.com with ESMTP id DHA08975; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:19:45 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4DF9AE91.2000102@lsces.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:19:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SUSE/2.0.14-2.2 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9014CE547@US-EX2.zend.net> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9014D10DC@US-EX2.zend.net> <4DF9913B.4030404@nouvo.com> <4DF99368.2040508@sugarcrm.com> <4DF99949.1070601@nouvo.com> <4DF9A820.4080507@lsces.co.uk> <4DF9AB0F.40005@nouvo.com> In-Reply-To: <4DF9AB0F.40005@nouvo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0301.4DF9AE91.005E, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2011.6.16.63616:17:7.586, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_SIZE_1500_1599, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr10.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B020C.4DF9AEAF.010E,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2010-07-22 22:03:31, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Pascal COURTOIS wrote: >> Like Stas I have >> never had problems with the stability of PHP5 in 10 years of running >> it. > > PHP5 did not exist 10 years ago ;-) OK coming on 8 years ... seems longer :) I looked at PHP4, but PHP5 was at release candidate stage so I decided that I'd skip straight to that. But I still had to learn PHP4 as people expected backwards compatibility. My ISP 1and1 STILL list PHP4 as the default for virtual hosting :( > Anyway, around 2001 it took me one year (not full time) to find out > there was a memory corruption in PHP. At that time I was using mod_php. > It crashed Apache. > >> YES I can get it to crash, but it has always told me why and >> fixing the problem clears that up. I do have sites that become >> unstable, but I have yet to find a situation where PHP was the >> problem ... > > when you have a bug in PHP it should not ever ever crash PHP and > unfortunately I encountered that case dozens of times. At least on Linux is just recovers and carries on The earlier windows stuff I had used to just crash the whole machine. PHP was something of a refreshing change ... I am behind you on getting what we have a lot better. Many thing have been pushed in and then forgotten ... like PDO! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php