Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53305 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41657 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2011 06:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jun 2011 06:10:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 67.192.241.183 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.192.241.183 smtp183.dfw.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [67.192.241.183] ([67.192.241.183:50861] helo=smtp183.dfw.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 63/A5-24246-45E99FD4 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 02:10:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp18.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 176BB2683E5; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 02:10:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp18.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id AFF442683DD; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 02:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4DF99E50.8040704@sugarcrm.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:10:24 -0700 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pascal COURTOIS CC: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9014CE547@US-EX2.zend.net> <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9014D10DC@US-EX2.zend.net> <4DF9913B.4030404@nouvo.com> <4DF99368.2040508@sugarcrm.com> <4DF99949.1070601@nouvo.com> In-Reply-To: <4DF99949.1070601@nouvo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! > what I did every single time. Among all my bug reports I had one answer > from decoder-php@own-hero.net (thanks to him) who reduced the test case > for a memory leak (bug 54460). I'm not talking about bugs in modules > but bugs in *core* which can be reproduced with few lines of *core* PHP. I am reading the list pretty closely and I don't remember any emails from you raising the question of reproducible corruption bugs recently, except indeed for 54460 which seems to be a memory leak, though presence of xcache in the trace suggests it may not even be a PHP bug. It talks about bug in a template engine containing thousands of lines. This is pretty hard work to debug something starting with huge unknown code, so no wonder nobody got to it yet. PHP is a volunteer project, and it's not easy to find volunteers to dig into thousand lines of unknown code to find a bug that may not even be there. It's quite a hard work. I must have missed other ones. But if they are still reproducible in 5.4 and you have reproducing code, you're welcome to share on the list. Unfortunately, bugs.php.net seems to be down, but once it gets up we could look into it and see if we can fix any. As I said, good reproduction makes it better. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227