Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53298 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9083 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2011 01:46:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jun 2011 01:46:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andi@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andi@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.117 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andi@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.117 us-mr1.zend.com Received: from [63.205.162.117] ([63.205.162.117:36161] helo=us-mr1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4C/61-24246-36069FD4 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:46:12 -0400 Received: from us-gw1.zend.com (us-ex2 [192.168.16.15]) by us-mr1.zend.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295C1C0401; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from US-EX2.zend.net ([::1]) by US-EX2.zend.net ([::1]) with mapi id 14.01.0255.000; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:46:08 -0700 To: Pierre Joye CC: Derick Rethans , PHP Developers Mailing List Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) Thread-Index: AQHMJQLZqLRX+QB92EWWKhyBl9u1h5S95t9wgADC64CAAJncIA== Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:46:07 +0000 Message-ID: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9014D10DC@US-EX2.zend.net> References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C9014CE547@US-EX2.zend.net> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [63.205.162.122] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) From: andi@zend.com (Andi Gutmans) >-----Original Message----- >From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre.php@gmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:33 AM >To: Andi Gutmans >Cc: Derick Rethans; PHP Developers Mailing List >Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) > >On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote: > >> Hence my suggestion to bundle MongoDB extension and possibly work on >additional extensions. Some of my suggestions probably rightfully didn't g= et >much interest such as Thrift. > >See my comment in your other thread and below. > >> Maybe we should consider making a list of extensions we think could be >beneficial and the new mentorship program can actually help deliver some o= f >them? > >I do not thnk it is a good thing to begin a discussion about this exact to= pic and >then totally ignore it. > I think it got lost in the very long and varying discussions. Will dig up a= nd take a look. I had a couple of hectic weeks. >I also think that it is somehow wrong to post something asking to do not p= ropose >new things when we finally have more people involved in proposals and >discussions. Maybe that's just me me but I do think that the main problem = we >have (besides the ones we identified and try to fix right now) is the comp= lete >lack of open discussions about possible new features, in this list with ne= w or >existing contributors. I did not say we should not propose or have discussions (I am in favor of a= dding [] for arrays for example). But I am saying the bias should be not to= include new language functionality unless it has very broad appeal & serio= us upside impact. The bias should be against feature creep. Andi > >-- >Pierre > >@pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org