Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53261 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2644 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2011 12:40:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Jun 2011 12:40:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.170 mail-yx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.170] ([209.85.213.170:53527] helo=mail-yx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 88/2C-14457-A4506FD4 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:40:43 -0400 Received: by yxk8 with SMTP id 8so2116090yxk.29 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 05:40:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=gQIF6txxcrwQRgB3ZYtI715e59ARnv4IaE1z3vvfAIc=; b=ANv7dUhKEw8Jb0Nn0QkCOjQSkMk5f64Q3eftD0SybdnDNLxwUyzs1aSymJTIT5urwI PC055QmpfA/iVmEGzyBfu/c+0tNznxD6aJ3Dw/QjrmOKll6R8wzQqHiUEw1yIShA01XA OE3n5IOdFf4+cw7MmdLkQN+m03OV9j+Lt5+ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RnlDWP8o/8HEGiKBiQsJh4mk5FoFyXw1fvE7zJ76km+w541JIicuqCAJNZhpoq52JW HXhl11fvZnPWl8axGJGYUsfkghVyZbMDtM+w/dC6VATmTRdQb8Qvpb/6jALD0henBbmE 4ZVPVfWQjiI55PjTdIKDIcQtiabAZ/OIvSZTs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.138.47 with SMTP id z35mr4450984yhi.97.1307968840246; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 05:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.34.4 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 05:40:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:40:40 +0200 Message-ID: To: David Coallier Cc: Ifthikhan Nazeem , Alexey Shein , internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [IDEA/PRE-RFC] PHP Core Mentorship Program From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, As I have nothing against a mentor program, nor something in favor of one, I think it should be done right from the 1st day. And to be in right it has to be open, by all means. Restricted lists, private discussions, etc. have no place in OSS projects. If you don't have access to the wiki to document your progress, pls request an account. If anything is happening or happens, it should happen in the respective list (doc, web, internals, pecl) and publicly. My doubts are more (like this thread shows) about the lack of will to contribute (to wish something is not necessary a will). Mentors does not or cannot create extra time in contributors days either :). To guide the contributors through the php project is only a very small part of the actual work, and could be explain better in our docs/wiki/sites. One immediate step could be to create a 'contribute' page, www.php.net/contribute. This page should explain the various areas one could contribute (docs, tests, core, pecl, etc.) and how to get in touch with the responsible developers. Maybe with a link to an issue in the bug tracker for a given todo, or in a wiki doc (for a verbose description). Cheers, On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:39 PM, David Coallier wrote: > On 13 June 2011 09:06, Ifthikhan Nazeem wrote: >> Sounds like a great idea. I have always wanted to contribute but did not >> find a structured way to incrementally build my knowledge of the internals. >> This might be a great way to attract new devs. >> > > Hey everyone, thanks for the interest in participating as mentees. > Just to give you an update, right now I'm trying to compile a list of > volunteer-mentors. Once this has been done, we'll start compiling > user-groups mentees and mentees in general. > > Thanks for your interest :) > > -- > David Coallier > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org