Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53258 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69258 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2011 08:06:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Jun 2011 08:06:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=iftecan2000@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=iftecan2000@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: iftecan2000@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.170 mail-vx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.170] ([209.85.220.170:60534] helo=mail-vx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 52/C7-14457-915C5FD4 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 04:06:50 -0400 Received: by vxb40 with SMTP id 40so3944839vxb.29 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:06:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FIXSPtsnlcHqIvKSFYbEtBkyIeUBPNjdJAT4x0xeBk0=; b=NSGpfUZFBjnibNzTuwM0nV8DWe0rgLxGvvkVopjJb/BK6qGxCeQphAlXAER1PrFLIq w+D/3RJPWuaXDNYhuGw5CAiEy2Cakn7RJErwWp3G5AsIPY/GcF2rWizUNppboSuNVQmO XmKKTvoLagh1A6oqc8qLBv8NMG4OyThUoCw/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=quRrpy3dR7iDtzAxBiGARIIXMlMNiLzcA98UyQ0MQ03/jkNnvgrfEwf5DLwpGfJ/87 KY43enx7goqhhZH2qMi6/0B7Yw9Nj5Nf6Q9MFxRPU87A/gX/BbLwSJtHoh+o1IdQTjq1 iP3NcK9OvO2KPkS/GVjw3XYZlYKaIE44mo+Ho= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.215.9 with SMTP id hc9mr1818734vcb.269.1307952406434; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.200.67 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:06:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:06:46 +0400 Message-ID: To: Alexey Shein Cc: David Coallier , internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54fbb089192ce04a59366f3 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [IDEA/PRE-RFC] PHP Core Mentorship Program From: iftecan2000@gmail.com (Ifthikhan Nazeem) --bcaec54fbb089192ce04a59366f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sounds like a great idea. I have always wanted to contribute but did not find a structured way to incrementally build my knowledge of the internals. This might be a great way to attract new devs. -- Thanks and Best Regards, Iftikhan Nazeem *LinkedIn* : http://ae.linkedin.com/in/ifthikhan *Mob :* 00971 050 7382623 *Skype* : iftecan2000 On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Alexey Shein wrote: > Really great idea. I'd like to be a part of it (as a newcomer of course :)) > > 2011/6/10 David Coallier : > > Hey all, > > > > Let me start by saying that this is merely an idea I'm trying to put > > together and before doing so, I need to see who would be interested. > > > > A short while ago, the Python community created something called "The > > Python Core Mentorship Program" [1][2] which is essentially an attempt > > to lower the barrier of entry to the Python core for new developers, > > students, etc. and connect everyone together in a more cohesive manner > > where people actually talk and interact. I strongly believe in such > > initiative and believe this is something we should also think about. > > > > Simply put, I'd love to put something together for the PHP > > core/internals where the goals of the program would be, not unlike the > > Python project, to get a few internals (Zend Contribs (Stas are you > > reading this? :P), Core contribs, PECL extensions developers, > > documentation maintainers) to be willing to help newcomers and provide > > a more comprehensive understanding of the contribution processes, > > internal trickeries, optimisations, etc. > > > > The general idea is to create a channel between the rest of the world > > and the internals of PHP where more experienced developers can > > transfer their knowledge and get a fresh perspectives from new > > developers that haven't approached the core before. > > > > Before continuing further into exploring this idea, we need to get > > volunteer mentors. The mentee process is likely to get a self-managed > > one and the mentors' role will hopefully be rather low in terms of > > time consumptions and the roles of the mentor will most likely be: > > > > - Introducing new developers to the processes > > - Answering questions > > - Helping with code review of patches > > > > Again, like the Python program and similarly to the GSOC projects, we > > should have a mailing list (restricted) dedicated only to the mentor > > (php-mentorship?) where anyone can ask the simpler questions. From > > this mailing list we should also be able to construct a solid baseline > > for new developers contributing to PHP. From the mailing list, we'll > > see what questions are coming over and over again we'll be able to > > build a wiki-faq-like sections for new contributors. > > > > I digress and here's what I'm hoping to achieve with this email: I > > want to get a few contributors from various aspects of the core > > including docs and pecl extensions willing to help new people. If you > > are interested, please raise your voice and if enough interest is > > displayed I'll get a proper wiki section started. > > > > Furthermore, one thing I am hoping this program will help bring is not > > only a stronger interest in the core and a fresh injection of talent > > but more importantly I hope we'll be able to contributors from our > > various communities that are scattered across the internet that barely > > ever interact with the internals. > > > > Hoping this email reaches as many of you and that my message is > > properly conveyed :-) > > > > P.S. This is really an attempt to find volunteers. If you are interested > please > > feel free to contact me directly if you prefer so we can start organising > > whatever would have to be done: davidc@php.net > > > > References: > > [1]: http://pythonmentors.com/ > > [2]: > http://jessenoller.com/2011/03/25/just-proposed-python-core-mentorship-program/ > > > > > > -- > > David Coallier > > Orchestra.io > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Shein Alexey > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --bcaec54fbb089192ce04a59366f3--