Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53257 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63079 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2011 06:52:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Jun 2011 06:52:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=confik@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=confik@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: confik@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.42 mail-yi0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.42] ([209.85.218.42:36764] helo=mail-yi0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 58/37-14457-0B3B5FD4 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 02:52:33 -0400 Received: by yih10 with SMTP id 10so2318931yih.29 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:52:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sLdQi2bAE/2nuuWKecVb97Jhs2uOZiX6LPwfQnjyMsg=; b=rrymLtpP6ec8g6aQ2Suf6UyjRKAfImG37Pllp30fi3vmVBvt7MnwfYITmnuDBhSn5i p45qKQGoCoGUnnJiBSI3bqxLs8SdmZegxYBStE73dvFQwa0HoA1IRjVKiBqnyrLB7yiG yQK2xhGcWDDdL67W4jm+qJl3kzTUNuiYwxRHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OxwToJM3NPpM8G9f+HamyGsuJXBYHoWFfN+JiWGNSdI8OfKR7YjoHJ42RWpu62SEfF I/BFu87VtFMM6SC6plteN9ZOgLeKLTW1VGhWybtDnhlSWmg9O1ixmo9KmLPD3EtNPKJw s+ocQe83CGryJBszSXa51dq6+zzC/PbSL8Dbo= Received: by 10.91.3.17 with SMTP id f17mr5773435agi.199.1307947950300; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:52:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.26.12 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:52:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:52:10 +0500 Message-ID: To: David Coallier Cc: internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [IDEA/PRE-RFC] PHP Core Mentorship Program From: confik@gmail.com (Alexey Shein) Really great idea. I'd like to be a part of it (as a newcomer of course :)) 2011/6/10 David Coallier : > Hey all, > > Let me start by saying that this is merely an idea I'm trying to put > together and before doing so, I need to see who would be interested. > > A short while ago, the Python community created something called "The > Python Core Mentorship Program" [1][2] which is essentially an attempt > to lower the barrier of entry to the Python core for new developers, > students, etc. and connect everyone together in a more cohesive manner > where people actually talk and interact. I strongly believe in such > initiative and believe this is something we should also think about. > > Simply put, I'd love to put something together for the PHP > core/internals where the goals of the program would be, not unlike the > Python project, to get a few internals (Zend Contribs (Stas are you > reading this? :P), Core contribs, PECL extensions developers, > documentation maintainers) to be willing to help newcomers and provide > a more comprehensive understanding of the contribution processes, > internal trickeries, optimisations, etc. > > The general idea is to create a channel between the rest of the world > and the internals of PHP where more experienced developers can > transfer their knowledge and get a fresh perspectives from new > developers that haven't approached the core before. > > Before continuing further into exploring this idea, we need to get > volunteer mentors. The mentee process is likely to get a self-managed > one and the mentors' role will hopefully be rather low in terms of > time consumptions and the roles of the mentor will most likely be: > > =C2=A0- Introducing new developers to the processes > =C2=A0- Answering questions > =C2=A0- Helping with code review of patches > > Again, like the Python program and similarly to the GSOC projects, we > should have a mailing list (restricted) dedicated only to the mentor > (php-mentorship?) where anyone can ask the simpler questions. From > this mailing list we should also be able to construct a solid baseline > for new developers contributing to PHP. From the mailing list, we'll > see what questions are coming over and over again we'll be able to > build a wiki-faq-like sections for new contributors. > > I digress and here's what I'm hoping to achieve with this email: I > want to get a few contributors from various aspects of the core > including docs and pecl extensions willing to help new people. If you > are interested, please raise your voice and if enough interest is > displayed I'll get a proper wiki section started. > > Furthermore, one thing I am hoping this program will help bring is not > only a stronger interest in the core and a fresh injection of talent > but more importantly I hope we'll be able to contributors from our > various communities that are scattered across the internet that barely > ever interact with the internals. > > Hoping this email reaches as many of you and that my message is > properly conveyed :-) > > P.S. This is really an attempt to find volunteers. If you are interested = please > feel free to contact me directly if you prefer so we can start organising > whatever would have to be done: davidc@php.net > > References: > [1]: http://pythonmentors.com/ > [2]: http://jessenoller.com/2011/03/25/just-proposed-python-core-mentorsh= ip-program/ > > > -- > David Coallier > Orchestra.io > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --=20 Regards, Shein Alexey