Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53165 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48869 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2011 17:17:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jun 2011 17:17:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sean@seancoates.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sean@seancoates.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain seancoates.com from 64.15.79.181 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sean@seancoates.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.15.79.181 iconoclast.caedmon.net Received: from [64.15.79.181] ([64.15.79.181:39840] helo=iconoclast.caedmon.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D3/66-15404-D0D5EED4 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 13:17:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DEB784051; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:18:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at iconoclast.caedmon.net Received: from iconoclast.caedmon.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (iconoclast.caedmon.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vgPlHK7ACElM; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.40.4] (mobile-166-137-136-045.mycingular.net [166.137.136.45]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3BF51784043; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:18:02 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:16:51 -0400 Cc: Andi Gutmans , Pierre Joye Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <8DC0D29E-5160-4EFD-80E4-B7ED1D1BB005@seancoates.com> References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C901499F97@US-EX2.zend.net> To: PHP internals X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling "modern" extensions From: sean@seancoates.com (Sean Coates) > My reasoning is simple. The key for bundling extensions is to have > them available for most hosting solutions. If a shared host provides > support for mongodb, then he will most likely enable the mongodb > extension in php, if he knows what he is doing. The same applies for > all other non core critical features but more from an architecture > point of view. Please don't forget that it's possible to host your database apart from = your main code. Mongolab[1], for example, offers MongoDB hosting, so = shared hosts that have the MongoDB extension enabled could easily use = their free tier on cheap hosting (at the cost of latency, of course). = Couch.io[2] used to offer free trial/sandbox hosting of CouchDB, = similarly (but there was no stable CouchDB extension last time I = checked), but I'm not sure if Couchbase (to which couch.io now points) = does. The point is that you don't need to have the target service available on = the PHP-hosting-machine in order to make use of the technology. [1] https://mongolab.com/ [2] http://www.couchbase.com/ S