Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53138 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 88987 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2011 13:36:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jun 2011 13:36:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.83.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.83.42 mail-gw0-f42.google.com Received: from [74.125.83.42] ([74.125.83.42:39089] helo=mail-gw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E7/3B-30784-C492EED4 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 09:36:12 -0400 Received: by gwb17 with SMTP id 17so2217912gwb.29 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 06:36:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=u937HEZqCFbOkbZQ2xyDcYafO07btgFN32RU99wdGdU=; b=kiJvTzm0Dya3t8vHBUSBd6/wituC6ISEL9YKJ+xM7KbOZaoV8qXUDYkgzb5lvaCabc u6XzDXE1qz8PPYVTMxvnAU13oCqWCC95wNKKl5dsJkoW1TnmKJqmwu+HPHj27pEbcWec qt/f5IWDJZA4AQFNRNMVAE26O9oXg1pDm8Wzk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=c8OFZG4/ITW5nKltNPSQhEq9DKkcV2AlqrlMoO7wxCXWGtMnn2Dr5D40RcnMNM9h1F joltUErPbDhG9V+l/AdFje07XHrml8uZEgNm4kjLBfPZf7nQN0TqT8sqRFJloB88dCSh HMeXjswvYWtOs4srDZ2BJzr1HZZtacQPVJRQQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.146.74.13 with SMTP id w13mr3568270yaa.18.1307453769203; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 06:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com Received: by 10.147.168.3 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 06:36:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DEE2332.3050705@thelounge.net> References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C901499F97@US-EX2.zend.net> <97.45.23189.8060DED4@pb1.pair.com> <4DED5F9B.7060101@thelounge.net> <4DEDC9F5.3030403@thelounge.net> <4DEDF049.7050504@gmail.com> <4DEDF216.6070308@thelounge.net> <4DEE1D47.8060209@gmail.com> <4DEE21C2.5060305@thelounge.net> <4DEE2332.3050705@thelounge.net> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:36:09 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 370AIkgbod_ec42IQm_3yeePk0k Message-ID: To: Reindl Harald Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd39a6a79417204a51f4d3e Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling "modern" extensions From: info@tyrael.hu (Ferenc Kovacs) --000e0cd39a6a79417204a51f4d3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 07.06.2011 15:08, schrieb Ferenc Kovacs: > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Reindl Harald >wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Am 07.06.2011 14:44, schrieb David Muir: > >>> On 07/06/11 18:40, Reindl Harald wrote: > >>>> there is a reason for example to disallow many functions > >>>> on a webserver - so every API has to make sure they > >>>> can not be bypassed > >>>> > >>>> "because we can" is no valid reason for everything because > >>>> we can install binary extension as they exist now and > >>>> if you can not you are missing the permissions for some > >>>> good reasons > >>>> > >>> > >>> So you're saying that PECL, PNI or FFI should should be actively > >>> discouraged because of security concerns? > >> > >> WHERE i said this? > >> PECL-Extensions can NOT be enabled by the user > >> > >> > > except if dl is enabled of course. > > i think nobody out there will enable this and hope such > crazy things are not enabled by default! > > sadly there are many crazy people out there: http://www.google.hu/#sclient=psy&hl=hu&source=hp&q=intitle:phpinfo()+enable_dl&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=580ca0074daf5780&biw=1280&bih=939 Tyrael --000e0cd39a6a79417204a51f4d3e--