Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53089 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1846 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2011 22:16:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jun 2011 22:16:24 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 208.107.178.23 host-23-178-107-208.midco.net Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:16:24 -0400 Received: from [208.107.178.23] ([208.107.178.23:2181] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F1/04-23189-7B15DED4 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:16:24 -0400 Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net References: <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A4930609E@il-ex2.zend.net> <4DEBE420.50005@sugarcrm.com> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A4930624C@il-ex2.zend.net> User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.0-18 (Linux) X-Posted-By: 208.107.178.23 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting Process (was: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)) From: weierophinney@php.net (Matthew Weier O'Phinney) On 2011-06-06, Chad Fulton wrote: > So, I would advocate a "white list" of core devs for formal voting (of > which, for example, I would not be a member). I think this mailing > list has grown sufficiently that "public opinion" can be gauged from > here: everyone can write their opinion without giving them voting > privileges. > > If you haven't already, I recommend you read the (incredibly long) > discussions from last summer on type-hinting. They convinced me that > sometimes a feature that sounds good is simply not a good fit for PHP > for reasons which many did not (still do not?) understand. I think your analysis is great. That said, I think if this is the route ultimately taken, any time an RFC is voted out, a summary of the _technical_ reasons for denying it should be provided. Usually there are very good ones -- but this information can be invaluable to anybody who may want to ressurect the RFC in the future to ensure they don't hit the same pitfalls. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney Project Lead | matthew@zend.com Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/ PGP key: http://framework.zend.com/zf-matthew-pgp-key.asc