Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53084 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93043 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2011 21:40:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jun 2011 21:40:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=martinscotta@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=martinscotta@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.170 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: martinscotta@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.170 mail-vx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.170] ([209.85.220.170:59114] helo=mail-vx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C1/52-23189-9694DED4 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:40:58 -0400 Received: by vxb40 with SMTP id 40so3520975vxb.29 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:40:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6P2BzrYJO9Q6q2qwNaGofeixa4T/dtiMgGOQWx36X3E=; b=aRR6ei0P2WfXy9NOUGTV5HT2bHxxj41EdzDXTQ3LUiikdWwpmZeCS8yNoCWD6R1pb3 5DpvQwP14y0/M8PSTbgsktj4tRSl91FSiedsF0oserFGWFe05AP0ocgEhu+7I4X8QV2f 4Yu15CaR6JbfyuLnb3ROsam3ByROY2/7jRyok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Tkvuy/VY4ZFd2ijhQj+lkXuX/1BpzoGaoIvinNehEhszPr1jLUzzFNvnCWH1Zs19hO ZbioMtu26pRnC920TBBaSH8c/ycANe/J96DLsfmpzPmU7bDMZ6fzUt3G8yADCKL8g0X+ /Mq6WsLnkLmNgGtOImox+WM/WRPNJTJEq260E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.189.131 with SMTP id de3mr986728vcb.48.1307396454978; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 14:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.192.129 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:40:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C901499F97@US-EX2.zend.net> <97.45.23189.8060DED4@pb1.pair.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:40:54 -0300 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: "Matthew Weier O'Phinney" , internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba53aa1c47971804a511f543 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling "modern" extensions From: martinscotta@gmail.com (Martin Scotta) --90e6ba53aa1c47971804a511f543 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Martin Scotta On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney > wrote: > > > My point is that perhaps PHP has missed the boat a bit by moving > > everything into extensions. Perhaps if an extension is particularly > > popular, it should be incorporated into core. But let USAGE drive that, > > not the opinions of individuals on @internals. > > > I cannot disagree than with this statement. PHP is one of the language > with the most connectivity solutions, fast adoption of new > technologies, etc. Why? Because the language itself is relatively > stable while its extensions are created every day for every possible > use. > > However it seems that you forgot to consider what I said here a couple > of times already. Having one nosql extension in core won't make > hosters make the respective server side infrastructure available. How > many hosters provide firebird? DB2? Only sqlserver is part of the > standard windows offers but that's due to some different factors. > > That's why we should differentiate general purposes extensions like > pecl's http and driver like mongo. > > so why mysql ext is int core? it's as specific as mongo, isn't? It'd be very nice if some extension could be enabled just by dropping the "extension file" on the path. So developers can check what they have using phpinfo, and then upload the needed extension using ftp. Is it possible? > Cheers, > -- > Pierre > > @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --90e6ba53aa1c47971804a511f543--