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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward
From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev)

Hi!

> Currently off the shelf, 5.2.17 is the 'old stable' but for some windows users
> it IS the only available version. Changing the rest of the infrastructure to

5.2.17 is unsupported. It is announced on php.net. Now, some Windows 
users, due to certain choices, may have to run this version - but this 
doesn't change the fact it's officially unsupported. So I don't see how 
it supports viability of LTS idea.

> package! So while PHP may have washed it's hands of the problem, those users who
> are stuck in the hole still need to be supported in some way. But all that is

There's nothing to prevent anybody willing to do it from providing this 
support. However, the question is not if there are users with some 
special needs. The question is LTS, specifically:
1. Will PHP group ever willing to support a version in LTS timeframe - 
so far it never happened
2. How we know we'd need to support such version UPFRONT - before it's 
released?

> being asked for is security fixes which seem to be a LOT less of a problem
> nowadays anyway? So support IS just a matter of maintaining availability to it
> and the correct builds of extensions that go with it.

It looks to me you are confusing the question of "is LTS a viable model 
for PHP development" with "if we had LTS 5 years ago, would somebody 
benefit from it now". These are two different questions, and the second 
one is pure theoretical since we didn't and still haven't and I for one 
still don't understand how we could have it.
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Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect
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