Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53009 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19587 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2011 10:52:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jun 2011 10:52:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.42 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.42 mail-ww0-f42.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.42] ([74.125.82.42:59126] helo=mail-ww0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8A/40-17923-061BCED4 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 06:52:17 -0400 Received: by wwk4 with SMTP id 4so1355025wwk.5 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 03:52:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pm9U20G6he3ThBMI554EwzffN7SesJdclMem2cY/qrk=; b=hqvLG7b4i/rKc+7o4Q6Li5PpHZrSMh41wCVg80q6nIlw5b5uv7VPRTB6Nel6kS5SHP Z6axfXGxDstjy0yl5hHg7vseP5uKg9pjGUo/DXN9+HmB5tinjoMe9p6X39IkGVpBZYqp dCgRDip8k3gf0Z8skkbm8F60YtgGYa7ZRhmp0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=VOgMcW/d2olFtvgkJ847doQQIhGM7d7tO+kAd8hzYaIFI9lzxKh9cRg0KhZNFRauk/ JOwORfTHp8k5qJWnS3HhXfSB/sQfMkBg1y0qFwU496WqfkEThaMD7dy/IZjADeItt+Jn jl3ZepxZhll+zsLQJIgcya8EiHzkq85ACVUw8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.236.208 with SMTP id w58mr2281585weq.62.1307357192594; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 03:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.253.168 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 03:46:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DECACFB.5000805@lsces.co.uk> References: <4DE7F179.5010402@sugarcrm.com> <4DE89534.5070206@sugarcrm.com> <4DE89CD2.4040302@sugarcrm.com> <4DE9AA9B.3000108@sugarcrm.com> <4DEC02B6.60806@sugarcrm.com> <4DEC7FED.9000700@lsces.co.uk> <4DEC8570.1010904@sugarcrm.com> <4DECACFB.5000805@lsces.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 12:46:32 +0200 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > Stas Malyshev wrote: >> >>> changes. While that almost certainly is due to the poor way that the >>> some of the >>> moves were documented, a version of 5.2 is still a preferred base for >>> some? And >>> this should perhaps be viewed as the current LTS branch? Certainly for >>> windows >> >> But >> a) it is not, since we don't support it. Somebody else could do the >> support, backport patches, etc. - but as far as PHP group is considered, >> this version is not supported anymore and nobody has any desire to do it >> as far as I know. >> b) we certainly couldn't know anything about it in 2006 when we released >> 5.2. > > Currently off the shelf, 5.2.17 is the 'old stable' but for some windows > users it IS the only available version. Changing the rest of the > infrastructure to support PHP5.3 builds of windows is not just a matter of > changing the PHP package! There is no reason not to update, absolutely none. > So while PHP may have washed it's hands of the > problem, those users who are stuck in the hole still need to be supported in > some way. But all that is being asked for is security fixes which seem to be > a LOT less of a problem nowadays anyway? So support IS just a matter of > maintaining availability to it and the correct builds of extensions that go > with it. No it is not only about these rather simple tasks, really not. QA, testing, etc. require consequent efforts, from many different teams. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org