Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:53003 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92605 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2011 07:44:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jun 2011 07:44:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 207.97.245.153 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 207.97.245.153 smtp153.iad.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [207.97.245.153] ([207.97.245.153:38144] helo=smtp153.iad.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CD/E1-13071-5758CED4 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 03:44:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp55.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 901652E022D; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 03:44:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp55.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id 2C0302E0235; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 03:44:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4DEC8570.1010904@sugarcrm.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 00:44:48 -0700 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lester Caine CC: "internals@lists.php.net" References: <4DE7F179.5010402@sugarcrm.com> <4DE89534.5070206@sugarcrm.com> <4DE89CD2.4040302@sugarcrm.com> <4DE9AA9B.3000108@sugarcrm.com> <4DEC02B6.60806@sugarcrm.com> <4DEC7FED.9000700@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4DEC7FED.9000700@lsces.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! > changes. While that almost certainly is due to the poor way that the some of the > moves were documented, a version of 5.2 is still a preferred base for some? And > this should perhaps be viewed as the current LTS branch? Certainly for windows But a) it is not, since we don't support it. Somebody else could do the support, backport patches, etc. - but as far as PHP group is considered, this version is not supported anymore and nobody has any desire to do it as far as I know. b) we certainly couldn't know anything about it in 2006 when we released 5.2. > of a PHP6 branch which PHP5.3 was a sort of 'son of' development. As with PHP4, > some sections of users will simply not bother to change what they are using > anyway, so for them, which ever version they use is an 'LTS' so an official LTS > really is just a point at which major work MAY be required to switch over, so > that is the point at which dropping PHP5.2.LTS needs to be considered? Can > anybody make a case for anything earlier being the current LTS base? They can lag on any version that works for them, that's fine and if it works for them, great. However I don't see how it explains how we can declare any random version of PHP LTS upfront. If it's a new version, they won't upgrade to it anyway, so that doesn't help neither them not us, and if they're ready to upgrade, they could upgrade to any regular version and stick with it they same way they do now. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227