Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52998 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 79915 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2011 06:23:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jun 2011 06:23:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sebastian@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sebastian@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 93.190.64.35 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sebastian@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 93.190.64.35 mail-5.de-punkt.de Received: from [93.190.64.35] ([93.190.64.35:60550] helo=mail-5.de-punkt.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FF/00-13071-C627CED4 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 02:23:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 9890 invoked by uid 511); 6 Jun 2011 06:23:38 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 9875, pid: 9887, t: 0.3008s scanners: attach: 1.4.0 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.31?) (sb@sebastian-bergmann.de@91.55.25.241) by 0 with ESMTPA; 6 Jun 2011 06:23:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4DEC7266.2000905@php.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 08:23:34 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A4930609E@il-ex2.zend.net> In-Reply-To: <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06A4930609E@il-ex2.zend.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: Voting Process (was: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)) From: sebastian@php.net (Sebastian Bergmann) Am 05.06.2011 22:05, schrieb Zeev Suraski: > - There wasn't sufficient time, or nearly any time at all - between when Brian pulled it off the attic, and when a vote was called. If my proposal is accepted, there'll have to be at least two weeks between when a clearly marked [RFC] email hits internals@, and when a vote is called. > - There wasn't a clearly marked, separate [VOTE] email. > - There wasn't a clear or easy way of voting. > - No voting period was announced, instead, people were told to stop mess around and go vote. > - The author of the RFC wasn't actively involved in the whole process (as far as I could tell); There was no official replacement proposer. These are all valid points. > I'd still like to hear from others what they think about my proposal. If your proposal addresses the issue mentioned above: +1. Haven't had the time yet to read through it again, sorry. -- Sebastian Bergmann Co-Founder and Principal Consultant http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://thePHP.cc/