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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling "modern" extensions
From: h.reindl@thelounge.net (Reindl Harald)

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there is no need to bundle GeoIP or the databae

GeoIP is part of the os-deployment and the database have
to be updated every month with a script, the problem here
was only that nobody cared about the extension over years

Am 06.06.2011 00:21, schrieb Scott MacVicar:
> Can't bundle geoip with the database due to the license on it. Would ma=
ke it a pretty useless extension to have in that case.
>=20
> S
>=20
> On 5 Jun 2011, at 11:39, Olivier Hill <olivier.hill@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
>> Could you open a bug for GeoIP? Being aware of bugs helps more than bi=
tching around.=20
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Olivier (iPhone)
>>
>> Le 2011-06-05 =C3=A0 04:37, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net> a =C3=
=A9crit :
>>
>>> Am 05.06.2011 12:57, schrieb Pierre Joye:
>>>
>>>> The last point is that pecl allows a much more flexible release
>>>> management than the core will even do.=20
>>>
>>> in theory
>>>
>>>> So instead of doing some marketing/communication actions by bundling=
 some=20
>>>> known extensions, we should better promote pecl better.=20
>>>
>>> not promote - MAINTAIN it better!
>>> in fact most of PECL-extensions are a lucky game since
>>> linux distributors has to find workarounds for rarely
>>> maintained extensions and you can not be sure that
>>> a extension can be compiled after a update of php
>>> or some system-library and only if you have luck
>>> a maintainer answers on a bug-report
>>> _____________________
>>>
>>> http://pecl.php.net/package/GDChart
>>> dead, no longer maintained and it needed a message to this list to
>>> get this confirmed by Ilia Alshanetsky, WTF - why is there no big
>>> red hint "DO NOT USE IT" until now?
>>>
>>> http://pecl.php.net/package/geoip - stable 2009-03-11
>>> what about try if this works after new releases of the
>>> library behind - with recent GeoIP-Versions php crashs
>>> if "geoip_db_get_all_info" is called, and sorry but
>>> after more than 2 years it is not the users hob reporting
>>> everything necause lazy maintainers writing code once
>>> and orphaning it
>>>
>>> http://pecl.php.net/package/pecl_http/2.0.0dev1
>>> coll, in th emiddle of 5.3 lifecycle a total incompatible
>>> reqrite is started and hopefully no one has projects
>>> relying on the pecl-extension
>>>
>>> http://pecl.php.net/package/ssh2
>>> was three years not maintained and could not compiled
>>> with recent versions of libssh2 without some magic
>>> patches from distributors
>>>
>>> http://pecl.php.net/package/gnupg
>>> did not work for threee years on fedora-systems
>>> no anwser on bu-reports - so what do you do in such a case?
>>>
>>> and you will tell us PECL is a relieable source for components
>>> anybody is using in his projetcs? not really!


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