Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52952 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42929 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2011 18:47:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jun 2011 18:47:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=h.reindl@thelounge.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=h.reindl@thelounge.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain thelounge.net designates 91.118.73.15 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: h.reindl@thelounge.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.118.73.15 mail.thelounge.net Windows 98 (1) Received: from [91.118.73.15] ([91.118.73.15:41419] helo=mail.thelounge.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DA/49-26000-05FCBED4 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 14:47:45 -0400 Received: from srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net (openvpn-241.thelounge.net [10.0.0.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.thelounge.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 828E098; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 20:47:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DEBCF4D.4060208@thelounge.net> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:47:41 +0200 Organization: the lounge interactive design User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110428 Fedora/3.1.10-1.fc14 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C901499F97@US-EX2.zend.net> <4DEB6A80.9030406@thelounge.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: id=7F780279; url=http://arrakis.thelounge.net/gpg/h.reindl_thelounge.net.pub.txt Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE5711586AEA88F31C504E941" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling "modern" extensions From: h.reindl@thelounge.net (Reindl Harald) --------------enigE5711586AEA88F31C504E941 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable done http://pecl.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=3D2274 BTW: that PHP 5.3.5 is the highest version in the dropdown for bugreports does not provide the feeling of maintaining Am 05.06.2011 20:39, schrieb Olivier Hill: > Could you open a bug for GeoIP? Being aware of bugs helps more than bit= ching around.=20 >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Olivier (iPhone) >=20 > Le 2011-06-05 =C3=A0 04:37, Reindl Harald a =C3= =A9crit : >=20 >> Am 05.06.2011 12:57, schrieb Pierre Joye: >> >>> The last point is that pecl allows a much more flexible release >>> management than the core will even do.=20 >> >> in theory >> >>> So instead of doing some marketing/communication actions by bundling = some=20 >>> known extensions, we should better promote pecl better.=20 >> >> not promote - MAINTAIN it better! >> in fact most of PECL-extensions are a lucky game since >> linux distributors has to find workarounds for rarely >> maintained extensions and you can not be sure that >> a extension can be compiled after a update of php >> or some system-library and only if you have luck >> a maintainer answers on a bug-report >> _____________________ >> >> http://pecl.php.net/package/GDChart >> dead, no longer maintained and it needed a message to this list to >> get this confirmed by Ilia Alshanetsky, WTF - why is there no big >> red hint "DO NOT USE IT" until now? >> >> http://pecl.php.net/package/geoip - stable 2009-03-11 >> what about try if this works after new releases of the >> library behind - with recent GeoIP-Versions php crashs >> if "geoip_db_get_all_info" is called, and sorry but >> after more than 2 years it is not the users hob reporting >> everything necause lazy maintainers writing code once >> and orphaning it >> >> http://pecl.php.net/package/pecl_http/2.0.0dev1 >> coll, in th emiddle of 5.3 lifecycle a total incompatible >> reqrite is started and hopefully no one has projects >> relying on the pecl-extension >> >> http://pecl.php.net/package/ssh2 >> was three years not maintained and could not compiled >> with recent versions of libssh2 without some magic >> patches from distributors >> >> http://pecl.php.net/package/gnupg >> did not work for threee years on fedora-systems >> no anwser on bu-reports - so what do you do in such a case? >> >> and you will tell us PECL is a relieable source for components >> anybody is using in his projetcs? not really! >> >> >=20 --=20 Mit besten Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen, Reindl Harald the lounge interactive design GmbH A-1060 Vienna, Hofm=C3=BChlgasse 17 CTO / software-development / cms-solutions p: +43 (1) 595 3999 33, m: +43 (676) 40 221 40 icq: 154546673, http://www.thelounge.net/ http://www.thelounge.net/signature.asc.what.htm --------------enigE5711586AEA88F31C504E941 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3rz00ACgkQhmBjz394AnmAsgCgiTbdP8zZsJh3CJuYkRNmU65O 4GIAn0H51emOSdfVFzvLIWond0XDCp3d =3W80 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE5711586AEA88F31C504E941--