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Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 17:46:40 +0200
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To: Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
Cc: Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>, Philip Olson <philip@roshambo.org>, 
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV]
 5.4 moving forward)
From: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com (Hannes Magnusson)

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 17:20, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Some of you may have followed the twitter conversation that Pierre and I=
 had at the end of last week; =C2=A0In my opinion, this dry (or partially w=
et) run that we had in the last few days of a voting process pointed to sev=
eral deficiencies that need to be addressed in the RFC release process that=
 need to be addressed before we move on.
>
> Fully agreed and it was the case for the array stuff and a consensus
> is clear here, and in favour of one the proposals. To make the point
> straight.

Say what?
Do people even know what they were voting for?
I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what is being voted on, so I haven't y=
et.

>> - The announcement will be done in a way that's easy to flag & follow, e=
.g. - by [RFC] in the subject line followed by the title of the RFC. =C2=A0=
Again, the effective date will start from the time this email is sent to th=
e list, not any other time.
>
> Afaict, it is the case already.

Definitely not.
There is so much discussion about the array stuff now that I have no
idea what is being voted on.. People started counting votes before the
discussion even began.

-Hannes