Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52936 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71290 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2011 14:20:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jun 2011 14:20:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.85.161.170 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.170 mail-gx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.170] ([209.85.161.170:41136] helo=mail-gx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 71/3C-26000-AB09BED4 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 10:20:43 -0400 Received: by gxk27 with SMTP id 27so1452199gxk.29 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 07:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.105.10 with SMTP id h10mr3383019ybm.316.1307283640293; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 07:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([189.122.151.183]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j3sm2633064anm.13.2011.06.05.07.20.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 05 Jun 2011 07:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DEB90B4.9020001@lerdorf.com> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:20:36 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Reindl Harald CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C901499F97@US-EX2.zend.net> <4DEB6A80.9030406@thelounge.net> <4DEB6D84.2000907@thelounge.net> <4DEB6F63.2060005@lerdorf.com> <4DEB714F.5080308@thelounge.net> In-Reply-To: <4DEB714F.5080308@thelounge.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling "modern" extensions From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus) On 06/05/2011 09:06 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 05.06.2011 13:58, schrieb Rasmus: >> On 06/05/2011 08:50 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>>> Also some exts are simply not used anymore or do not have active >>>> developers >>> >>> but they compile with recent 3versions and if not >>> the build will stop and someone fix it >> >> Sorry, but that doesn't actually happen. Only commonly used core things >> are regularly tested. > > why not? Simply because they depend on 3rd-party things that most of the core devs simply don't use. I have never installed and tested pi3web, Roxen and tried to use PHP as a milter extension, for example. Have you? These are all core sapi modules in PHP 5.3, but they can't be tested in isolation. Just like you need MySQL installed and configured correctly to run the MySQL tests. But MySQL is common and popular, so this is tested all the time. Once again, most developers work on what they need, myself included. We share what we work on, but we don't work on demand on things other people need. If you need something that isn't well-supported or isn't getting much attention, it is your own responsibility to either figure out how to maintain it yourself or find someone you can pay to do it for you. -Rasmus