Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52934 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65522 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2011 14:02:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jun 2011 14:02:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.211.66 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.211.66 unknown Received: from [217.114.211.66] ([217.114.211.66:64028] helo=config.schlueters.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 98/0B-26000-66C8BED4 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 10:02:15 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.230] (ppp-93-104-38-223.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.38.223]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by config.schlueters.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0EFA47204A; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 16:02:11 +0200 (CEST) To: Andi Gutmans Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C901499F97@US-EX2.zend.net> References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C901499F97@US-EX2.zend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 16:02:06 +0200 Message-ID: <1307282526.1767.39.camel@guybrush> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling "modern" extensions From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 23:00 +0000, Andi Gutmans wrote: > Hi, > > I've been getting quite a few inquiries re: PHP's "lack" of support > for modern technologies such as NoSQL databases (for lack of better > term). There is some (mistaken) perception that PHP is behind on this > front. I'm in the believe that PHP should bundle rather less than more and we should advertise PECL better and probably better separate "Siberia" from well maintained parts. For "average" users I see not too much benefit by bundling. Distributors often make no difference between PECL and Core extensions in their repositories and on some distributions one even can't find all Core extensions while PECL stuff is there. I found lots of PECL stuff on shared hosts, also. johannes