Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52926 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38663 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2011 12:00:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jun 2011 12:00:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.54 mail-ww0-f54.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.54] ([74.125.82.54:59674] helo=mail-ww0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F8/46-26000-1EF6BED4 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:00:40 -0400 Received: by wwd20 with SMTP id 20so2788390wwd.11 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 05:00:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+pyNaGr+WnsTFhZs7YlrmurdZPi7X7P7WHEkfj66aa4=; b=eoItCUp3WzUjA+0ibDd2c+4OpLhZk8B08lP2TFILaju1WG86iHAnp1yBgA41LwaZ63 vvLS7CEEuR1KD4cKllxoM+tmURqkN17HQBcBYJ0f42Ztlamps4wuR2kl9+JIqKJR8MM/ Ubb6pPi3cTWFHgUR53GURwkctziNYdax4quws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=HPzheewv/sLLOcioogIKQJUiPRKJ6azQUDeGvD3w/7dF8wCDqbGLZLffTDCggZd6+C RxesQ6iqwXFIUTFCKg+CwUuDukyJJ2N+qLJDAQAIsowWRSZTHGc2lmoN1lSSL13cYZBM mRdut/eu788cMTO3wTUMacAxUOv+wA6ndx1vw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.15.137 with SMTP id f9mr3638340wef.62.1307275213347; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 05:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.253.168 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 05:00:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DEB6D84.2000907@thelounge.net> References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C901499F97@US-EX2.zend.net> <4DEB6A80.9030406@thelounge.net> <4DEB6D84.2000907@thelounge.net> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 14:00:13 +0200 Message-ID: To: Reindl Harald Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling "modern" extensions From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Being in core is not a sign of good maintenance. There are so many >> poorly maintained part in core as well. > > but they are running through some autotests > a fucking PECL extension which is not updated > for years and where bugreports are ignored > is out of reach even for only smallest fixes Again, please change your tone. Thanks. This comment brings nothing to the discussion and only states again what Richard says, so my comment will be the same as well. >> Also some exts are simply not used anymore or do not have active >> developers > > but they compile with recent versions and if not > the build will stop and someone fix it Report bugs work pretty well, I do fix unmaintained extension very often. >> If you use some of them, then try to contribute and take >> the hand over them (you being anyone reading this mail, not you >> alone:) > > sorry, as php-user i can not take my hand over You can write tests, for core or pecl, there is no difference, no excuse not to contribute. > i can only realize that devleop anything depending on PECL is a dangerous > game if it is not one time payed throw away-code and will end on the > road to hell for big and over years maintained projects Again, same for core. There is zero guarantee than some extension will be maintained in the long run, I repeat: Absolutely no guarantee. Only continuous work and contributions make an extension rock and well maintained. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org