Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:52922 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 33566 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2011 11:50:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jun 2011 11:50:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=h.reindl@thelounge.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=h.reindl@thelounge.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain thelounge.net designates 91.118.73.15 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: h.reindl@thelounge.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.118.73.15 mail.thelounge.net Windows 98 (1) Received: from [91.118.73.15] ([91.118.73.15:43157] helo=mail.thelounge.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 10/45-26000-78D6BED4 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 07:50:32 -0400 Received: from srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net (openvpn-241.thelounge.net [10.0.0.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.thelounge.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E5F2298; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 13:50:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DEB6D84.2000907@thelounge.net> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:50:28 +0200 Organization: the lounge interactive design User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110428 Fedora/3.1.10-1.fc14 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <8757232E56758B42B2EE4F9D2CA019C901499F97@US-EX2.zend.net> <4DEB6A80.9030406@thelounge.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: id=7F780279; url=http://arrakis.thelounge.net/gpg/h.reindl_thelounge.net.pub.txt Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2C155061AFB474F053E782EC" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling "modern" extensions From: h.reindl@thelounge.net (Reindl Harald) --------------enig2C155061AFB474F053E782EC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 05.06.2011 13:40, schrieb Pierre Joye: > hi, >=20 > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Reindl Harald = wrote: >> Am 05.06.2011 12:57, schrieb Pierre Joye: >> >>> The last point is that pecl allows a much more flexible release >>> management than the core will even do. >> >> in theory >> >>> So instead of doing some marketing/communication actions by bundling = some >>> known extensions, we should better promote pecl better. >> >> not promote - MAINTAIN it better! >=20 > Being in core is not a sign of good maintenance. There are so many > poorly maintained part in core as well.=20 but they are running through some autotests a fucking PECL extension which is not updated for years and where bugreports are ignored is out of reach even for only smallest fixes > Also some exts are simply not used anymore or do not have active=20 > developers but they compile with recent versions and if not the build will stop and someone fix it > If you use some of them, then try to contribute and take > the hand over them (you being anyone reading this mail, not you > alone:) sorry, as php-user i can not take my hand over i can only realize that devleop anything depending on PECL is a dangerous= game if it is not one time payed throw away-code and will end on the road to hell for big and over years maintained projects normally every maintainer which will not rebuild his package for every php-release and fix compile warnings from time to time should be burned down (including php-users not using E_ALL | E_STRICT on developemnt machines and fix warnings/notices) --------------enig2C155061AFB474F053E782EC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3rbYQACgkQhmBjz394AnlLQQCfVVUKtQLzmjj5XRCStVZRGg9r 2EYAn3lJqkGOZ4A0C8B3HDOay+ZGmjuO =AYg2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2C155061AFB474F053E782EC--